1733 Tasting Notes

95

Splurged on this one, and figured it be good if they are keeping this vintage around for a slightly higher price. I’ve only begun drinking it tonight, but the aroma and flavor are the right mix of delicate and full. Rounded texture, and the tea opens up at an even pace after 20 seconds, slightly getting bigger, and not revealing its secrets and layers immediately.

Coconut shells and meat comes to mind every time, with some lime qualities that I’d associate with a green Qin Xin they described, with a creamy texture. There are some similarities to Camelia Sinensis Lishan, though this one is more heavy in the coconut department so far. It’s interesting they wrote caramel in the notes because I usually don’t get that for most green oolongs. I am for this one, and it’s spinachy milk water so far that I am enjoying slowly. Kinda reminds me of Irish Cream somehow…exaggeration probably. I will add more to the notes as I continue tonights session.

I saved some for Leafhopper in the trade, and I look forward to seeing what she thinks.

Adding more to this, it does fade out kinda quick after steep 4. I did it again western at 2 minutes, and it was smooth and consistent.

Flavors: Coconut, Cream, Creamy, Irish Cream, Lily, Lime, Milk, Spinach, Thick

Leafhopper

I’m glad you included it in the trade because I was drooling over the description. Coconut gets me every time.

Daylon R Thomas

Same. I wanted to give you the opportunity to try this company out because their sourcing is really exceptional. I will add that this one is not as flavor forward or long lasting as like say What-Chas, but it does pretty well western to get the smooth caramel coconut spinach combo. It’s really forgiving, so I might tumbler or grandpa it to see if it keeps the flavor.

Leafhopper

I’ve never Western steeped Taiwanese high mountain oolongs, except at the beginning of my tea journey when I didn’t know any better. They’re so pricy that I want to get the most out of them. Out of curiosity, what are your parameters for Western steeping gaoshan?

Leafhopper

Also, this company has a free shipping threshold of 70 euros, so I very well may make an order when I’ve finished more of my spring 2021 oolongs. They have a Shan Lin Xi Black and a white tea from Jun Chiyabari, among other interesting things.

On a related note, have any of you had any luck getting rid of the VAT when importing tea from European vendors outside the EU? Apparently, they can’t do it on their own and need to go through courier services, which often charge as much in brokerage fees as the original VAT amount. Any advice would be appreciated.

Daylon R Thomas

Um, I paid around 9 euoros the previous time I ordered from them, so it wasn’t as bad as I expected. As for lishans and other high mountains that I know will do well with, I use 3-4 grams and never exceed three minutes occasionally bringin the temp down to 180-185, 5 grams if I got a 14-16 oz tumbler. I only do western for a tea if I know it’s not astringent and flexible, and I usually brew it between 1-2 minutes, 3 minutes if it’s taking its time to open up. I actually have been able to rebrew the tea quite a few times doing it that way, but again, I only do it with the ones I’ve got several amounts of that I can experiment with. I will also do it for the weaker teas, or the ones that usually need grammage above 6 grams to open up. I know that’s not exact step by step instructions, but I hope it gives you an idea of what I work with. I also brewed this one western 1 minute and 15 the first time, 2 min, 3 min, 4, 5, and then grandpa to get it. Gong fu parameters are better to get to it first, though.

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94

I’m being lazy and writing all the tea notes on one page, but I may do a detailed review of each one later. I got this with 50 grams of the 2019 Lishan, and was ecstatic. This package was my 2021 end of the year self care pick me up.

I’ve gotten through half of the teas so far, so I’ll list them based on the order I tried them in as I backlog.

No. 540 Li Shan 2021 – 1800m
15-20 sec increments, repeated a 20 second rinse 4 times, and then longer minute steeps after based on aroma and color.
Insanely good and sweet smelling, having a great mix of savory vegetable with floral, sweet, and tropical ones. It smelled like fruit loops cereal, and initial steep had a sweet corn butter taste, and later steeps got vague fruitier and more floral with some healthy buttered and sweet greens in the body, bordering on caramelized despite being a greener Qing Xin. Maybe it’s the barley note they write about? Definitely a fan.

No. 540 Li Shan 2021 – 2000m
Same methods as above, and definitely more delicate and floral. The comparison I made in my head was between the lower elevations caramelized sugar, and this one was more like soft, powdered sugar. I got baby’s breath for some of the florals, definite orchid. Zhao Zhou describes this one as greener with a goat milk density to it, and it is. Both teas are very similar, and oddly enough, carry a bit of a chamomile like milky profile. Insanely uplifting, and has a clear meditative quality that’s really nice. I prefer the lower elevation overall, but I think I would have to always get some of this in comparison for a calming afternoon or evening.

No. 547 Wenshan Baozhong 2021
Of course a bazhong was next
15 sec parameters, 20, 15, 20, 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 60, 80.
LOOOOOOOOVED this one. I was surprised how complex this one was, and it meshed insane floral and fruity qualities that were more pronounced in the lishan. I’m gonna be basic and use Zhao ZHou’s description:
“It has a lily of the valley scent, which changes slightly to other flowers later, slight hyacinth, rose, chamomile. Great experience to meet this tea. Its taste is characterized by deep green notes, florality, a bit of citrus, and later some buttery biscuit. Delicate throbbing, focus. A great accompaniment to hot summer days from morning to afternoon. We hope your tasting is as enjoyable as when we first met this tea.”
It’s still green, but I was hit with jasmine, rose, citrus, butter, bready notes, and freshly steamed and sweet snap pea green. Hugged myself with it. Sad I only had 5 grams.

No. 539 Shan Lin Xi 2021 – 1400m – 10 g
I had 5 grams of it. 20 sec steeps in increments. They compared it to the 2017 vintage, which I had in the previous oolong sampler I got from them, and like that one, had a lot of coconut, butter, almond, and lots of spinachy green goodness and umami. Some gyurko qualities like they describe, but more nuanced and not quite as marine. I really like it, but Baozhong is my favorite so far because of its complexity.

Here’s what I got left to try:
No. 218 Formosa White Jade 2021
No. 341 Taiwan Primeur Green 2021
No. 546 High Mountain Gaba 2020 – 10 g
No. 648 Red Jade Ruby 2020

I know I should just make my own notes for each. However, I can just copy my drafted reviews and make pages when I have the brain power….I mean…“discipline.”

Other than that, I HIGHLY recommend this sampler for Taiwan Tea lovers. I’m a little bit dodgy about the Red Jade varietals, so it will be interesting to see how they taste. More notes soon…I’m behind.

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80

Coming back from Florida three days ago with my Zhao Zhou order arriving!

This was gifted with another Jin Chiyabari First Flush sample with my order, and I was pretty ecstatic. I followed their parameters using 150 ml of water, 5 grams of tea, and 15, 20, 25, 15,10, 20 sec steeping time.

The tea was full bodied and herbaceous, floral. First steep had a citrusy and grainy aroma and thick viscousness. Lemon peel, herbs, hops, bread, malt. Second one was much the same beginning to lean into the beer character. The fourth steep was the most complex and full on tasted like a citrus beer with lemon and orange in a wheaty aftertaste, some grass herbs and hops from the trichomes. Thick as ever. Later steeps grew bitter and more herbaceous.

I’m definitely happy for this one. I’m not sure I’d reach for it, but it’s the kind of style white tea I like that still has enough fruity elements and texture to keep me going. There are more first flush black qualities in this tea than white qualities since it’s not delicate. It’s a little malty, but refined and zesty. The citrus and texture felt great on my throat as I am sick and recovering from Bronchitis and my booster. I wish I saved some for a cold brew, but with how cold it is in Michigan right now, I’m satisfied with my hot cup. Not sure if I’ll rate it-but at least an 80 min.

Flavors: Beer, Bread, Citrus, Citrus Zest, Floral, Grassy, Herbs, Hops, Lemon Zest, Malt, Orange, Thick, Wheat

Preparation
185 °F / 85 °C 0 min, 15 sec 5 g 5 OZ / 150 ML

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They had samples!

I was extremely curious about this one. I used to really like matcha, but moved away from it and towards oolong. When I saw this, I wanted to try it out. Like the company owner describes, it’s got the same mouth feel and flavor profile of a Lishan, but slightly fuller. The only issue I had was the texture, and the tea was significantly earthier as a matcha. I used a proper matcha bowl and whisk, 160 F hot water, and z patterns with the whisk and there were no round clumps leftover, but there was a lot of green sludge left in my bowl after I poured some into my cup. I don’t know if I used to much, but the earth and dirt taste overpowered the Lishan delicate elements making me not enjoy the tea as much. The color was a perfect dark jade green, but I think I need to got lighter with the sample next time as to not remind me of the basic truth that I am literally drinking grinded grassy leaves raw.

I’ll try it another time. Not sure if I recommend it yet or not. It’s got a different kind of umami, and somehow, I’ve had much less earthy matcha. I still prefer whole leaf lishan after my first time, yet I still want to give it another chance. It’s more complex in notes than a regular matcha, though I think I might stick to a regular matcha.

Flavors: Cream, Dirt, Earth, Floral, Grass, Sugarcane

Leafhopper

I’m glad you were able to order this in a sample size! My inner tea nerd really wants to try this, but my inner pragmatist is saying it’s a bad/expensive idea.

ashmanra

Harney recommends using a tiny amount of cold water added to your matcha bowl to make a paste and then add your hot water and whisk for clump free tea. It works! I wonder if that would be a better method for this tea?

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85

Heavy on the floral Dong Ding. I should have had this tea then the MiXiang because the leafhopper bitten version was far better than this one. Red Blossom notes are pretty on point because this one is lead by the orchid aroma and flavor overall.

It’s vegetal, but very balanced. I can kinda get gardenia, but orchid still dominates it with the more vegetal snap-pea and water chestnut notes. There’s some hints of sweetness that might be interpreted as persimmon or apricot. I wondered if this were actually a Cu Yu varietal because of the orchid/snap-pea profile reminding me of Jades and Tie Quan Yins, but it’s Qin Xiang. It’s also pretty forgiving in the oversteep towards the end. Not the most luxurious Dong Ding I’ve had, but more than passable.

Flavors: Creamy, Floral, Green, Orchid, Persimmon, Snow Peas

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93

I used Christmas money to finally try out Red Blossom Tea, and I ripped open this sample on new years day. Safe to say it compares more favorably to higher elevation oolongs than to other Tung Tings. Passionfruit and honey were the most prominent things about this one, and tropical floral and fruity smell. It is on the green side of the oolong spectrum having some Gui Fei similarities, but not as totally as vegetal as other tung tings-maybe squash-like? It was also full bodied from steeps two onward having a honey malt flavor until it got into floral-leaf-oil-water-leftover-tea-phase.

Either way, I was hugging myself while drinking it last night. It’s been my favorite of my Red Blossom purchase so far and something I would consider getting again, though not too soon. High cost of living in California is keeping me from purchasing it as often with my Michigan income.

Flavors: Floral, Fruity, Green, Honey, Malt, Mango, Passion Fruit, Spinach, Squash, Tropical

Leafhopper

This actually sounds better than the Lishan Matcha. :)

ashmanra

Ooooo sounds good!

Daylon R Thomas

Yeah, it is. I should have gotten more than one sample. It was only 5 grams. I should have thought-mixiang is literally up your alley. Oh well, I will still get to spoil you.

Leafhopper

LOL, that’s okay! I don’t expect you to send me every good tea that crosses your path. :) I’ll have to put Red Blossom on the long, long list of vendors I want to buy from eventually when my cupboard is somewhat manageable.

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97

Yeah, this cold brews well in Florida. Still creamy, still floral, still sweet with something my brain reads as strawberry, even though that’s probably imprecise as a descriptor. I have a cough, so the sweet violets have been an effective cough suppressant. Bumping up the rating for versatility and some medical usefulness.

derk

I had a cough, too. Wonder if it was an expression of covid. Hope you’re well!

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57

I wanted to try this one, and lo and behold, a Target in FL had it. Trying it out, I don’t think the tea is nearly as balanced as other Harney and Son’s blends. They usually kick butt with their caramel flavors, but it’s overwhelmed by the Bourbon and the lapsang. I also don’t taste the vanilla. I personally would have picked a Wuyi Oolong to blend with the other Chinese black to make the tea smoother while keeping the smokey taste. It’s not as strong as other lapsangs-I think or guess it’s got some Keemum in it too-could be wrong.

I do enjoy this tea since I like booze flavored teas, but I am pretty disappointed with it and have had better Harney Teas and better bourbon teas. At least the tin is cool. I also think it would be a good for people wanting a non-alcoholic option.

Flavors: Alcohol, Ash, Char, Cherry, Peat, Smoke, Vanilla

Evol Ving Ness

Booo. Which caramel teas do they kick butt with, Daylon?

Daylon R Thomas

Paris. It’s not a caramel tea strictly, but they add it in the mix with the bergamot and other fruit flavors.

Evol Ving Ness

Hmm. Thanks!

Crowkettle

I forgot about the caramel-esque qualities of “Paris”. Miss that tea a little.

Lexie Aleah

I got my tin of this one from Target too but I liked this one! The tin is definitely pretty too!

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97

This is officially a favorite and something I want to be a staple. Clearly, a few other people get it in bulk and make it their staple too because it keeps selling out. It is no wonder, though, because the tea is that good. I guess everyone wants to commit cremes. It’s pretty flexible under my tumbler, and less is more with the approach. It can actually gong fu, but western serves it well. I know the jin xuan is flavored too, but there are natural florals that blend seamlessly with the violet, and it’s not an overly spinachy base either.

I’m not sure what to rate it since I’d almost do a hundred, but I’m doing 95….for now. My friends have also deeply enjoyed it. It’s really more of an late eventing tea, but I can drink it any time.

Roswell Strange

Earlier this year my friend Marika bought them out of it entirely – it’s definitely a favourite of us both.

Mastress Alita

It’s always been sold out any time I’ve checked the site…

Daylon R Thomas

How many grams? I got 2 2 oz to have some lol

Roswell Strange

I think she bought something like 400g of it

Crowkettle

One day it will be available again and that’s when I shall try this company. One day.

Daylon R Thomas

I joined the mailing list to get it. I stalked the website for a month until it restocked.

Daylon R Thomas

I feel your pain…

Crowkettle

Is this a Whispering Pines level of desperation?

Thanks for tip about the mailing list :|

Daylon R Thomas

Close. Brutaliteas is not as expensive or snobby as Whispering Pines, but I had that level of Desperation as I did for frickin’ Rivendell. There are good teas for the bases though. This is actually not an expensive tea at all-like $13 for 2 oz, and Evoolong is actually a really good pure Jade Oolong.

Crowkettle

I’ve made peace with never drinking Rivendell again… But I want to partake in Voilet Cremes with all of you :P

Leafhopper

I’d ask for a small sample of this in our swap, but you’re probably hoarding it. :P

Daylon R Thomas

I’ll put it in. Luckily, I got 4 oz worth in two bags, so it will be easy to share.

Leafhopper

Thanks! :)

Tiffany :)

I too am stalking the site for this one to place my first order with this company.. someday y’all we will all get to try this!! :D

Crowkettle

There may be some available right now, fyi! ;)

I’m not sure I can order any in time because shipping to Canada is iffy apparently (I should’ve inquired directly sooner, I guess), but the rest of you should go for it!

Daylon R Thomas

Damn that went fast.

Crowkettle

Reached out to them and sounds like there’s more coming in a few weeks. Trying this once and for all is now my tea priority, haha.

Leafhopper

If those Violet Cremes are as good as they smell, getting them is indeed a good tea priority. :) You’ll have to let us know what shipping is like to Canada.

Daylon R Thomas

Have you tried the amount I’ve sent yet? I may have repacked it yet, but I don’t remember.

Leafhopper

No, I haven’t tried it, though it smells lovely. I’m focusing on the teas I’m putting into my swap boxes so I can finally send them out. You’re getting two Baozhongs that I think you’ll enjoy. :)

Crowkettle

Yes! I’m curious to see what you think when you eventually get around to trying it, Leafhopper :)

Mastress Alita

I was one of the peeps that decided to snag some thanks to the restock announcement, so thank you!

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85

I’m still into this one, and there’s finally an ice cream taste to it from the combo of vanilla, salt, amaretto, and milky jin xuan. I wish it were a regular instead of an overpriced limited edition.

But I’m going to go on a little gleeful ramble. I finally got to see Evanescence and Halestorm live in concert, in the flesh, and was thrilled. I’ve been obsessed with them since I was nine and have had a huge crush on Amy Lee for years, and yet, I have never been to their concerts. I had an opportunity to see them at the Machine Shop up close at a bar, but the kicker was that I was 18, not 21, and therefore not old enough to be there. This particular event was special because I have not gone out to do something for myself or with friend in three years, even before the pandemic, and I finally got to and see two of my favorite bands in person. I also got to see two of Lzzy Hale’s and Amy Lee’s duets, and both gave me goosebumps.

“Yeah, it’s perfectly reckless
Damn, you leave me defenseless
So break in
Break in”

My best friend went with me, and we both belted out the Evanescence lyrics by sheer impulse and after grueling weeks of teaching in December. Of course we were off key. Of course we got some glances, but of course, we weren’t the only ones singing our hearts out. Also, so many people broke out crying when singing My Immortal. Both my mom and I cried at the exact same time of the song, and both of us recorded our voices breaking “And I held your hand through all of these years, but you’ll still have all of me” in sobs.

So yeah, I had a cathartic weekend. I actually like Evanescence’s new album a lot. I know it won’t rival Fallen for many, yet I like that the lyrics have actually matured a little bit from stereotypical angst. The lyrics are still steeped in themes of loss, but they’ve moved in a direction towards coping. I’m going to cherish this memory as one of the most emotional one’s I’ve had in a while.

Mastress Alita

I also love Evanescence! (“Breathe No More” is a deeply personal song for me that I will always love dearly)

Daylon R Thomas

SAME! Hello is another good grief one.

Crowkettle

Evanescence was my first concert as a kid – luckily at an all-ages venue (and lucky to have a cool older sister)! Glad that you were finally able to see them and make such great memories! They’ve left a everlasting impression on me too :)

Tiffany :)

Oof. $45 for 4 oz or $25 for 15 sachets (https://www.smithtea.com/products/ice-cream-royale?variant=39540805861511)? I mean I spend thousands of dollars on tea and this tea does sound good but this seems a bit steep.

Daylon R Thomas

It is. I only get it if there’s a discount of at least 20%. Even then, it’s overpriced.

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First Off, Current Targets:

Whispering Pines Alice
Good Luxurious Work Teas
Wang Family’s Jasmine Shanlinxi
Spring, Winter Taiwan High Mountain Oolongs

Dislikes: Heavy Tannin, Astringency, Bitterness, or Fake Flavor, Overly herby herbal or aged teas

Picky with: Higher Oxidation Oolongs, Red Oolongs (Some I love, others give me headaches or are almost too sweet), Mint Teas

Currently, my stash is overflowing. Among my favorites are What-Cha’s Lishan Black, Amber Gaba Oolong, Lishan Oolong, Qilan Oolong, White Rhino, Kenya Silver Needle, Tong Mu Lapsang Black (Unsmoked); Whispering Pines Alice, Taiwanese Assam, Wang’s Shanlinxi, Cuifeng, Dayuling, Jasmine Shan Lin Xi; Beautiful Taiwan Tea Co.“Old Style” Dong Ding, Mandala Milk Oolong; Paru’s Milk Oolong

Me:

I am an MSU graduate, and current alternative ed. high school social studies and history teacher. I formerly minored in anthropology, and I love Egyptian and classical history. I love to read, write, draw, paint, sculpt, fence(with a sword), practice calisthenics on rings, lift weights, workout, relax, and drink a cuppa tea…or twenty.

I’ve been drinking green and black teas ever since I was little living in Hawaii. Eastern Asian influence was prominent with my friends and where I grew up, so I’ve been exposed to some tea culture at a young age. I’ve come a long way since I began on steepster and now drink most teas gong fu, especially oolong. Any tea that is naturally creamy, fruity, or sweet without a lot of added flavoring ranks as a must have for me. I also love black teas and dark oolongs with the elusive “cocoa” note. My favorites are lighter Earl Greys, some white teas like What-Cha’s Kenyan offerings, most Hong-Cha’s, darker Darjeelings, almost anything from Nepal, Green Shan Lin Xi’s, and Greener Dong Dings. I’m in the process of trying Alishan’s. I also tend to really enjoy Yunnan Black or Red teas and white teas. I’m pickier with other teas like chamomile, green teas, and Masalas among several.

I used to give ratings, but now I only rate teas that have a strong impression on me. If I really like it, I’ll write it down.

I’ll enjoy a tea almost no matter what, even if the purpose is more medicinal, for it is my truest vice and addiction.

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