I got an oz of this and an oz of Mom’s Apple pie when I bought a Timolino recently. I like these pearls. 4 to my cup at work seems to be a good thing. 3 is too weak. I like how the black tea and jasmine in this seem to bring out some cocoa flavors- at least to me. I never really like jasmine in combo with green tea, but with black tea it’s heavenly.