2008 Menghai Dayi Tea Factory * 8582 * Raw Pu-erh Tea cake

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Pu'erh Tea
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Flavors
Bitter, Hay, Honey, Nutty, Pepper, Smoke, Sweet, White Grapes
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200 °F / 93 °C 0 min, 30 sec 8 g 77 oz / 2268 ml

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  • “I have enjoyed 9 steeps of this tea now. I use 3 steeps for the “me” size cup I normally drink. This tea has no astringency no harshness and no “bite” at all. This tea brew a light orange/golden...” Read full tasting note
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  • “I was getting some cheap glass teapots from Yunnan Sourcing, and I couldn’t resist taking a couple of pu’er cakes as well, especially with the expensive shipping of them. I don’t now a lot about...” Read full tasting note
  • “Another sample from Puerhshop and one of the famous MGH recipes. Definitely a calming easy drinker. Trace bitterness. Absent astringency. Apparently this has been dry stored for much of its life,...” Read full tasting note
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  • “Dark liquor after 20 sec infusion to start, keeping the water temp low with this one and being careful with the brew. Getting a sourness or tartness on first sip, drying sensation through the whole...” Read full tasting note
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From Menghai Tea Factory

Batch 801 * Classic blend raw recipe cake * 357 grams

A classic recipe from Menghai, but the first production of 2008 (801). This is an average blend of 8th grade material from 2006 and 2007, so it has already mellowed a bit.

8582 is a classic Menghai tea factory recipe that was first introduced in 1985. Although the leaves used are coarser and larger than 7542 and 7532 recipe cakes many people find this cake to be superior in taste and smooth after-taste.

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304 tasting notes

I have enjoyed 9 steeps of this tea now. I use 3 steeps for the “me” size cup I normally drink. This tea has no astringency no harshness and no “bite” at all. This tea brew a light orange/golden color. It has a light citrus aroma. It taste like a very light green tea with the sweetness of honey to it. I found this to be one of the most enjoyable shengs that I have had. Definitely in the top three. I have the newer versions of this cake and hope they age as well. I was really surprised as this is a secondary code 807 of this tea. Very nice. I will probably buy another one of these.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 0 min, 30 sec
looseTman

“I found this to be one of the most enjoyable shengs that I have had. Definitely in the top three.” So why only a 78 pt. rating?

mrmopar

Whoops forgot that slider.

looseTman

Oh, that looks better!

tea123

Good review.

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30 tasting notes

I was getting some cheap glass teapots from Yunnan Sourcing, and I couldn’t resist taking a couple of pu’er cakes as well, especially with the expensive shipping of them. I don’t now a lot about young pu’ers, and I chose to get three vintages of 8582. I have sampled a couple of older 8582’s, and I liked them, and these young cakes where cheap. So I bought this one made 2008, another from 2009 and a third being made 2010. A vintage comparison! Although Steepster doesn’t (yet?) support comparative notes, I’m gonna give some thoughts on the comparison on this single note.

FIrst, they all were clearly the same tea. The taste was about the same, difference was more on how the taste behaved.
‘10 first attacked me with a taste I believe most describe in English as astringent bitterness, but the initial nastiness made room for a liquiricelike sweetness quite common with young cakes. Although first shocking, the initial taste moved aroung quite smoothly, it’s roughness was quite round if one can say like that. Aftertaste was pleasant. I’d say potential, but I won’t probably be drinking this for a couple of years.

‘09 was most interesting one. First I thought this was slighlty more tamed version of ’10, but at some points it gave some weird tastes. It didn’t behave consistently. At some brews this was definantly the weakest one, but sometimes it really shined. I really don’t know why.

‘08 was my overall favourite. It’s taste was most harmonious, balanced. There was quite a bit of roughness, but this tea wasn’t as bipolar as the ‘10 and ’09. If these three cakes really form a valid timeline of aging, I’d say this is my vasual pu’er in a couple of years.

Now the interesting thing is, are the differences in taste due their ages, or are they resulting from different harvests? Their age differences are relatively large, the ‘08 being three times as old as the one from ’10. On the other hand, they are only a year from each other. That will probably clear out in a couple of years, as their relative age difference lessens. I’m excited in onberving the aging of these three.

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Another sample from Puerhshop and one of the famous MGH recipes. Definitely a calming easy drinker. Trace bitterness. Absent astringency. Apparently this has been dry stored for much of its life, but is still quite nice and shows some age.

A nice tea I could see being a daily drinker. But at $0.16/g for a cake, I’m on the fence. I might rather go with one of W2T’s newer cakes that are closer to $0.20/g. If this cake were in the $0.10-0.12/g range or sported more complexity, I’d certainly buy one. But I’m tempted and might end up getting one anyways because I could see it getting significantly better with some time and TLD (tender loving dampness).

Full mouthfeel for a sheng. Like drinking a watered down gel. Longevity was 15+ infusions. Honey and white grapes take quite a bit of time to show their heads at the 10th infusion. Given the age and concomitant lack of bitterness, I might try hotter/longer steep times to ramp up flavor development speed.

Batch: 803

Flavors: Bitter, Hay, Honey, Nutty, Pepper, Smoke, Sweet, White Grapes

beerandbeancurd

Really interested to read about all the puer on your journey. I am working to get my brain around all the recipes and abbreviations and storage and intricacies of sourcing… just want amazing tea in my cup, lol!

ashmanra

Do you both know mrmopar and have a link to his recommended puerh list?

Marshall Weber

I know it is very confusing! I’m new to it all too but loving puerh for sure.

I haven’t seen mrmopar’s list but that would be super helpful and appreciated!

beerandbeancurd

I know of him, and I actually have a couple samples that came to me from someone he originally sent them to at some point… but no, do tell about this list! I have been craving some sort of digestible collection of info. I feel so scattered.

ashmanra

https://steepster.com/mrmopar/teas?sort=rating

There are a few more links you might like. Have to dig them up…

ashmanra

This has a lot of info and is one mrmopar recommended for reading a long time ago.

http://www.puerh.fr/en/article/red_da_yi.htm

If you go to discussions and just use puerh as your search topic you will find lots of info, too.

beerandbeancurd

ashmanra, you rock. Thank you very much!

ashmanra

You’re welcome! And Mrmopar is awesome and will happily answer any questions you may have. We also discovered we are distant cousins! (As is gmathis!)

beerandbeancurd

Whaaaaaaaat?! That is nuts and I love it.

Marshall Weber

Thanks ashmanra for the help! He certainly looks like he knew his stuff! Too bad he’s not posting anymore. I might get some samples of some of his top recommended teas soon :).

And that’s wild to find someone on here who is related!

ashmanra

Marshall Weber: Although he isn’t posting, I believe I have seen a few comments from him so I think he is still reading! He is usually pretty quick to respond to DMs and if you search in the discussion threads, you might come across his description of how he built his pumidors! He is a really awesome guy.

beerandbeancurd

He is currently active on Liquid Proust’s discord — are you over there yet, Marshall? Puerh nerding abounds. The link is in the discussion forums!

Marshall Weber

I’m not on there but would love to be! I searched for it but looks like the link in the discussions has expired or maybe the group is private? I’ll try to DM him for a new link.

ashmanra

Mrmopar has your names and will be following you soon!

Marshall Weber

Thanks a bunch for all the help! I look forward to talking tea with him.

beerandbeancurd

This should be a current invite link the discord: https://discord.gg/hamderHc

Marshall Weber

Just joined! Thanks for the link :)

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695 tasting notes

Dark liquor after 20 sec infusion to start, keeping the water temp low with this one and being careful with the brew.

Getting a sourness or tartness on first sip, drying sensation through the whole mouth with longer finish. It’s strong (11g to 150mL,) but not unpleasant. In fact, I’m finding it quite enjoyable. Later steepings lighten up a bit, but I’m balancing that with a longer time.

As said above, it’s easy-drinking and enjoyable. Maybe not standout great but a solid choice.

Preparation
195 °F / 90 °C 11 g 150 OZ / 4436 ML

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1113 tasting notes

Woke up over an hour early before I need to head to work so what do I do… pu’erh session of course :)

12 steeps before I head to work. I’ll admit that being tired in the morning I don’t have a lot to say about the tea itself, but it was enjoyable and I feel quite awake. I suspect that once I sit in my chair at work I’ll become tired once again. The taste of this is pure, basic, and smooth.

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518 tasting notes

Another tea from the wonderful boychik

smooth, easy drinking. The first few infusions have that weird taste that is gone by the third steeping. Long lasting. (I have to leave before I’m done, so I’ll save the leaves and finish up tomorrow.)

I’m getting a nice calm from this tea, too, with a bit of energy. More of a focus than a calm, I guess. Hmmm. Hopefully, it helps me with sprints in a little bit.

boychik

It’s nice smooth sheng. Few days ago I sample one and felt completely drugged. I wouldn’t really mind before going to bed but it was 2pm and I had to drive to pick up kids fr school ….

Stephanie

I love the focused/calm thing. Sheng is so weird!

Cheri

It was quite tasty. I may have to get some of this.

Terri HarpLady

love me some sheng!

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Gongfu method
5g 100ml 200F
rinse/ pause/ 3/5/5/7/10/15sec etc
i sipped on this tea all day yesterday. its very good smooth solid sheng. Bitterness only at the end of the sip. Quite sweet.
i do like it. Perfect everyday sheng, maybe not too complex. But arent we need those teas that we just enjoy and dont analyze.

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 0 min, 15 sec 5 g 3 OZ / 100 ML
Cwyn

Agreed, I like some simple daily drinkers that don’t put me through the thought of “I need to save this rare tea.”

tea123

Is this from tuochatea?

mrmopar

@tea123 Tuocha has it I think.

boychik

@tea123 yes, i got it from Tuocha tea. They have very good prices but my package took almost 3 months to arrive. I chose the cheapest ship. They were in transit during the summer ;(

Kirkoneill1988

boychick, have you tried 2013 yunnan sourcing autumn ye sheng before? It’s a great everyday sheng too

boychik

@Kirkoneill1988 no i havent,but i have a sample. will try soon :)

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This is an excellent tea. I ordered mine from tuocha. It brews a nice golden color, all the way through several infusions. The flavor is smooth, with little astringency. Some fruity notes come in at the later infusions. It’s flavor is simple but quite nice, and I enjoyed drinking something with a little age to it. I would highly recommend trying this cake if you want to get some idea about what aging will do to a pu erh, and you don’t have tons of money to spend.

mrmopar

Excellent choice.

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