457 Tasting Notes

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I’ve been neglecting my oolongs from Wang Family Tea, and wanted to rectify the situation a bit before starting on my spring 2022 purchases. This unroasted Alishan is from spring 2021. Following Wang’s instructions, I steeped 6 g of leaf in 120 ml of boiling water for 55, 45, 55, 65, 75, 85, 95, 120, 150, and 240 seconds.

The dry aroma is sweet and floral, with notes of orchid, gardenia, and honeysuckle. The first steep gives me heady orchid, gardenia, honeysuckle, pine, coconut, cream, grass, and other flowers (Daylon mentioned freesia, which fits). The florals are even headier in the next steep. Maybe it’s because of the pine, but I do get a sense of “woodsiness,” as the company calls it. The tea is also a little vegetal, with grass and lettuce in the aftertaste. Sweet freesia and lilac are more prominent in the next couple steeps, along with coconut, lemongrass, pine, lettuce, and that “woodsy” note. The next few steeps are full of sweet florals, but are becoming increasingly vegetal, with lettuce, spinach, and grass. The tea never gets bitter, but has a vegetal, floral fade.

This is a very nice Alishan that’s better than many others I’ve had. It’s definitely on the floral and vegetal rather than the fruity side, but as someone who likes heady florals, that’s okay. I’ll probably revisit another harvest of this tea at some point, though the Shanlin Xi Wild Garden is more up my alley.

Flavors: Coconut, Cream, Floral, Gardenias, Grass, Honeysuckle, Lemongrass, Lettuce, Lilac, Orchid, Pine, Rainforest, Spinach, Sweet, Vegetal

Preparation
Boiling 6 g 4 OZ / 120 ML

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This is one of those teas I thought I’d tried, but I don’t see a note. (When I pasted this review into Steepster, it turns out I did write a note for it, but I can’t see what it says! I gave it a pretty high rating, which is ominous.) I steeped 3 g of leaf in a 120 ml teapot at 185F for 20, 40, 60, 90, 120, and 240 seconds. I also bowl steeped 2 g of tea in 200 ml of water at 185 starting at 3 minutes, adding water as needed.

The dry aroma is of smoke, meat, green beans, grass, and florals. The first steep has notes of smoke, meat, green beans, asparagus, butter, and grass, with a floral and smoky aftertaste. The next steep has even more smoke, and adds spinach and hints of apricot. Already, this tea is quite vegetal. The next couple steeps have hints of florals, apricot, and grass, but the smoke and spinach/asparagus/bitter veggies predominate. The final few steeps are very smoky and vegetal, and I understand why Teavivre doesn’t include them in their instructions.

When I bowl steep this tea, the bitterness and smoke are much less apparent. I get more florals, asparagus, and grass, and even a bit more apricot. The tea fades out rather than getting extraordinarily bitter.

I don’t think this is the green tea for me. I’m not a fan of smoke, and I can really taste it in this Mao Jian. There aren’t enough other flavours to make it interesting for me. Well, you can’t like them all!

Flavors: Apricot, Asparagus, Astringent, Bitter, Butter, Floral, Grass, Green Beans, Meat, Smoke, Spinach, Vegetal

Preparation
185 °F / 85 °C 3 g 4 OZ / 118 ML
Leafhopper

It seems I’ve become both pickier and better at identifying flavours. Interesting to see how my tea preferences have evolved.

LuckyMe

Smokiness is my least favorite things to taste in green tea. Often a sign of low quality or stale tea. Reminds of my heathen days when I used to drink gunpowder green tea.

Mastress Alita

I also don’t like smokey notes in green tea. The only way I can tolerate gunpowder is if it has copious amounts of mint added, strong enough to hide the tobacco-yuck.

Leafhopper

LuckyMe, I think Xin Yang Mao Jian is supposed to have a little smoke, though I could be wrong. Either way, I don’t think I would have chosen this tea. It came as part of a sample set I won in a draw. I’m pretty sure it wasn’t stale, though, as it was the spring 2022 harvest. Just not something I’d order again.

Mastress Alita, I had a smoked Lapsang Souchong that turned me off this tea type for years, so I get where you’re coming from with tobacco-yuck! Fortunately, I discovered the unsmoked version and haven’t looked back. :)

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I purchased this tea last year after reading some glowing reviews on Steepster. I often find Red Jades to be too astringent, but this one was recommended as being smooth. I also very much enjoyed the Yu Chi Assam What-Cha carries, and I was hoping this tea would be of similar quality. I steeped 6 g of leaf in a 120 ml porcelain pot at 195F for 10, 12, 15, 18, 20, 25, 30, 40, 50, 60, 90, 120, and 240 seconds.

The dry aroma is of sassafras, menthol, malt, raisins, and sweet potato. The first steep has strong notes of sassafras, menthol, and malt, with hints of cinnamon, cream, raisins, red grapes, and sweet potato. Some tannins are present, but they’re not overwhelming. The next steep is very similar, though the sassafras is stronger. Steeps three and four add notes of juniper, molasses, and honey, and that menthol flavour resolves into wintergreen (though maybe this is a result of reading Derk’s tasting note). Later steeps give me more honey, molasses, malt, sweet potato, and bread, though there’s still plenty of sassafras and wintergreen. I accidentally let one of the later steeps cool down and can notice the plum and nectarine Eastkyteaguy mentioned in the aroma. The final steeps have lots of tannins, minerals, bread, honey, and malt.

This is one of the smoothest Red Jades I’ve had, though I still prefer other types of Taiwanese black tea. The sassafras and wintergreen are especially prominent, which I think is the point of this cultivar. It never gets overly tannic as other Red Jades have done in later steeps, and the complexity of flavours is impressive. I hope Alistair gets this tea back in stock.

Flavors: Bread, Cedar, Cinnamon, Cream, Grapes, Honey, Malt, Menthol, Mineral, Molasses, Nectarine, Plum, Raisins, Sarsaparilla, Smooth, Sweet Potatoes, Tannin, Wintergreen

Preparation
195 °F / 90 °C 6 g 4 OZ / 120 ML
derk

Mmm yeah! I’ve had The Tea’s Competition Ruby 18 a few days this week and am having difficulty unlocking it. So far it’s kind of muted and somber? What-Cha’s Ruby 18 was much more open and accessible in comparison.

Leafhopper

LOL, I was tempted to steal a sample of that Competition Ruby, but there wasn’t that much. I hope Alistair gets his Ruby 18 back in stock.

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Dragonwell is a tea I have some experience with, though not a lot. Sadly, most of the Long Jings I’ve bought over the years have grown old in my tea museum. Not this one! I steeped 4 g of leaf in an 85 ml teapot at 185F for 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, 70, 90, 120, and 240 seconds. I also steeped about 1.5 g of leaf in 200 g of water starting at 2.5 minutes, refilling the cup with hot water as needed.

The dry aroma is of chestnuts, green beans, butter, and orchids. The first gongfu steep has notes of chestnuts, green beans, spinach, butter, and orchids. Steep two adds herbs and artichokes, with slightly increasing bitterness. In the next couple steeps, I get a sweet corn note along with the chestnut and veggies. Subsequent steeps are increasingly grassy, mineral, and vegetal, though the corn and chestnut sweetness holds steady until the session is almost over.

Predictably by now, bowl steeping mitigates some of the bitterness and emphasizes the chestnut and corn. It also brings out more of a grassy quality, and the tea steeps out relatively quickly.

This is a pleasant Long Jing that I wouldn’t mind drinking again. As many of these green teas seem to do, it performed better with bowl steeping than gongfu. Perhaps I need to find different gongfu steeping instructions than the ones on Teavivre’s website.

Flavors: Artichoke, Bitter, Butter, Chestnut, Grass, Green Beans, Herbaceous, Mineral, Nutty, Orchid, Spinach, Sweet Corn, Vegetal

Preparation
185 °F / 85 °C 4 g 3 OZ / 85 ML
Michelle

Tea museum, HA! How old does a tea have to be to merit entry into your museum?

Leafhopper

I haven’t really thought about it. Anything more than two years old is a good candidate. I have green tea from 2016 or 2017 that definitely qualifies.

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Red oolongs get less attention than they deserve, so I was happy to see this sample in my last What-Cha order. (Then, of course, I let it sit for over a year. . . .) I steeped 5 g of leaf in a 120 ml pot at 195F for 25, 20, 25, 30, 30, 30, 45, 60, 90, 120, and 240 seconds.

The dry aroma is of apricots, berries, grapes, flowers, roast, and honey. The first steep has notes of cherry, banana bread, apricot, plum, honey, and roast. The next steep adds muscatel and jammy berries, with a bit of a drying finish. The next couple steeps have even more baked cherry, blackberry, plum, honey, butter, banana, roast, nuts, and florals. The fruit kind of melds into a general impression, but I can pick out individual flavours if I try. The next couple steeps are a little more drying, but still have that intense cherry flavour. The roast and nuts are becoming more prominent. I finally get some jasmine in steep six, along with a more pronounced grape/raisin note. The cherry persists over the next few steeps, while the tea increasingly has notes of roast, wood, bread, and minerals.

This is a lovely dessert tea with a distinct cherry flavour that I haven’t found too often elsewhere. Some of the other fruity notes are muddled, though that could be because I wasn’t using enough leaf. I’m not sure this would be an everyday tea for me, but I’m glad to have tried it.

Flavors: Apricot, Berries, Blackberry, Bread, Butter, Cherry, Drying, Floral, Grapes, Honey, Jam, Jasmine, Mineral, Muscatel, Nuts, Plum, Raisins, Roasted, Wood

Preparation
195 °F / 90 °C 5 g 4 OZ / 120 ML

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I received this tea as a free sample in my last What-Cha order. It’s always nice to try something new from Jun Chiyabari, which produces some of the best, most interesting teas from Nepal. I steeped around 2.5 g of leaf in a 355 ml mug at 195F for 3, 4, 5, and 7 minutes.

The dry aroma is of cocoa, roasted almonds, malt, and wood. The first steep has pronounced notes of fudgy darker chocolate and roasted almonds, plus malt, cream, barley, brown sugar, hints of red grape, and wood. The tea has a slightly drying finish and a vegetal aftertaste along with the chocolate (Togo describes it as bell peppers). The next steep introduces flavours of butter, honey, and bread, though the chocolate is still the star. The final couple steeps have a more attenuated chocolate flavour and have notes of earth and chilli leaf, which is something I’ve tasted in other Jun Chiyabari teas.

This is a lovely chocolate tea, though it lacks some of the complexity I’ve found in other teas from this producer (Himalayan Spring comes to mind). I wish I’d gotten more fruity flavours, as other reviewers have. Nonetheless, it’s a cozy, well-crafted tea that I should have consumed during the winter.

On a related note, Alistair is offering 1 pound for each review that is submitted on his site until the end of June. I’ve been contributing to my Jin Jun Mei and Lapsang fund for a few days now. :)

Flavors: Almond, Bread, Brown Sugar, Butter, Chili, Cocoa, Cream, Dark Chocolate, Earth, Grapes, Green Bell Peppers, Honey, Malt, Roasted Barley, Tannin, Vegetal, Wood

Preparation
195 °F / 90 °C 3 min, 0 sec 3 g 12 OZ / 355 ML
Daylon R Thomas

Yeah, I’m going to get on that….there’s so many I need to post.

Leafhopper

Yeah, you probably have more What-Cha reviews than me! Sorry I didn’t post this in the Miscellaneous Sales thread a little earlier.

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Chun Ya is a green tea I haven’t heard about that often, and the dearth of notes on it suggests I’m not the only one. I steeped around 3 g of leaf in an 85 ml teapot at 185F for 10, 15, 20, 30, 40, 50, 80, 120, and 240 seconds. I also steeped about 2 g of tea in 200 ml of 185F water starting at 4 minutes, adding hot water as needed.

The dry aroma is of flowers, green beans, and chestnuts. The first gongfu steep has notes of green beans, spinach, chestnuts, grass, and faint florals. The next steep has a hoppy/piny bitterness and adds brussels sprouts and watercress. The next couple steeps have notes of hops, cilantro, spinach, asparagus, and chestnuts and are getting bitter. The final few steeps are predictably earthy and bitter, with notes of brussels sprouts, spinach, and grass.

As with the other green teas, bowl steeping brings out many of the pleasant notes (chestnuts, hops, florals, asparagus, spinach) without the increasingly unpleasant bitterness. What it lacks in complexity, it makes up for in drinkability.

I have to say that to my untrained palate, these green teas are much of a muchness. This one is less savoury than the Lu Shan Yun Wu but less nutty/sweet/elegant than the Huo Shan Huang Ya and Bi Luo Chun. I think I would repurchase all of these three teas instead of this one. I already cheated on this drink-all-my-green-teas project with a Red Jade hongcha from What-Cha and an Alishan from Tillerman (no regrets!). However, I will keep forging ahead. Thanks to Teavivre for the samples!

Flavors: Asparagus, Bitter, Butter, Chestnut, Earth, Floral, Grass, Green Beans, Herbaceous, Hops, Pine, Spinach, Vegetal

Preparation
185 °F / 85 °C 3 g 3 OZ / 85 ML

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I don’t have a previous note for this tea, even though I ordered it based on the impression that I’d tried and liked it. I also remember having a very fresh Lu Shan Yun Wu from Yunnan Sourcing a few years ago. I steeped around 4 g in an 85 ml pot at 185F for the recommended 20, 30, and 50 seconds, plus extra steeps of 70, 90, 120, and 240 seconds. I also grandpa steeped around 1 g in 200 ml of water.

The dry leaf smells like veggies and nuts stir fried in butter, with green beans, soybeans, asparagus, and greens. The first steep has notes of chestnuts, butter, asparagus, green beans, soybeans, spinach, and umami. I imagine that this tea would go well with food, as others have found. The profile doesn’t change much over the session, though the bitterness increases near the end. The chestnuts and umami stick around, which is nice.

Grandpa steeping produces almost the same results, though without the bitterness. The body of the tea is especially thick in the early part of the session.

This is a simple but tasty tea whose resemblance to a stir-fry is oddly appealing. I will enjoy playing with my remaining 5 grams, but I think this is a once-a-year spring indulgence for me rather than a daily drinker.

Flavors: Asparagus, Butter, Chestnut, Edamame, Green, Green Beans, Nutty, Savory, Spinach, Thick, Umami, Vegetal

Preparation
185 °F / 85 °C 4 g 3 OZ / 85 ML

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I remember getting samples of this tea in the past, but I don’t have a note for it. Maybe they’re still in the vaults. I steeped around 4 g of tea in an 85 ml teapot at 185F for 15, 15, 20, 30, 50, 70, 90, 120, and 240 seconds. I also grandpa steeped slightly less than a teaspoon of leaf in a 200 ml cup for 4 minutes, adding hot water as needed.

The dry aroma is of green beans, nuts, corn, spring flowers, and grass. The first gongfu steep has notes of green beans, asparagus, nuts, lilac, narcissus, and grass. The second adds corn and is slightly bitter. The next couple steeps are beany, buttery, and floral, with faint hints of melon. The body of this tea is pleasantly thick. The melon and florals persist into the next couple steeps, but the tea becomes increasingly bitter, with asparagus, kale, and grassy notes. The end of the session is all bitter veggies.

Surprisingly, steeping this tea grandpa style decreased the bitterness and brought out the corn, florals, and melon. Maybe this is because I used substantially less tea. It never got overwhelmingly bitter, instead fading to a grassy, saline finish.

This tea has many of the flavours I enjoy in high mountain oolong, though it’s definitely more vegetal. I was surprised that grandpa steeping didn’t increase the bitterness, but instead highlighted the fruit and florals. I may need to try this method with the other Teavivre greens.

Flavors: Asparagus, Butter, Floral, Grass, Green Beans, Kale, Lilac, Melon, Narcissus, Nuts, Salty, Sweet Corn, Thick, Vegetal

Preparation
185 °F / 85 °C 0 min, 15 sec 4 g 3 OZ / 85 ML

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I’m not sure I’m posting this note in the right place since most other reviews of this tea are so old, but the package just says Huang Shan Mao Feng without any modifiers like Premium or Organic. I was excited to read on Teavivre’s website that this is a floral green tea reminiscent of my beloved Taiwanese green oolong. I steeped 5 g of leaf in a 150 ml teapot at 185F for 30, 60, and 90 seconds, plus steeps of around 3, 3, 4, 5, and 10 minutes.

The dry aroma is of savoury veggies like asparagus and beans, orchids and other florals, nuts, and seaweed. The first steep is lighter than I expected, with strong beany, saline, and vegetal notes and a floral sweetness that is indeed similar to high mountain oolong. (However, this tea can’t be mistaken for anything other than a green.) I also get that chestnut taste I associate with a lot of green teas and a slight bitterness. The next steep is buttery, beany, slightly bitter, and floral, with asparagus and kale making it more vegetal than I prefer. It was gone within a few seconds of being poured, an indication that this tea is surprisingly easy to drink. Steep three is a little more vegetal. I lost count on the fourth steep, which amped up the bitterness to levels I found to be unpleasant. The aftertaste is of spring flowers, including lilacs, and grass clippings. The final steeps are pretty bitter, though I also got lazy with the timing.

I’m not sure what to think about this tea. The florals are great, but it becomes bitter easily. I also steep out my green teas until the (bitter) end of their flavour, which is perhaps not the best thing to do. It somehow feels wrong to make three steeps of a tea and then throw it out, even with my extensive tea museum.

Flavors: Asparagus, Bitter, Butter, Chestnut, Cut Grass, Floral, Green Beans, Kale, Lilac, Orchid, Seaweed, Sweet, Umami, Vegetal

Preparation
185 °F / 85 °C 0 min, 30 sec 5 g 5 OZ / 150 ML
LuckyMe

This is one tea that gets hyped a lot but I found it to be pretty generic. I’ve only had it from Teavivre though. I might try another vendor before giving up on this tea.

Leafhopper

It would be fun to try the various Mao Fengs from The Sweetest Dew, but it’s a lot to spend on green tea that I might not like/appreciate. Maybe I’ll order some greens from Camellia Sinensis next year.

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Since I discovered Teavana’s Monkey Picked Oolong four years ago, I’ve been fascinated by loose-leaf tea. I’m glad to say that my oolong tastes have evolved, and that I now like nearly every tea that comes from Taiwan, oolong or not, particularly the bug-bitten varieties. I also find myself drinking Yunnan blacks and Darjeelings from time to time, as well as a few other curiosities.

However, while online reviews might make me feel like an expert, I know that I still have some work to do to actually pick up those flavours myself. I hope that by making me describe what I’m tasting, Steepster can improve my appreciation of teas I already enjoy and make me more open to new possibilities (maybe even puerh!).

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