4330 Tasting Notes

90
drank Silver Needle King by Shang Tea
4330 tasting notes

Yay, another of my Shang samples! I pretty much picked up all of their “plain” white teas, meaning the non-floral variety. So that includes this one, their White Peony, and their Wild White. I don’t have much experience with white teas in general, so I thought it would be fun to try all of them. So I plucked this little packet out of the cupboard this afternoon when I felt like having one of those white teas. The packet recommended a 1-2 minute brew, but I left it in for an additional 30 seconds after tasting it. I actually did four brews total with the same leaves: 2.5 minutes, 4 minutes, 5 minutes, and 10 minutes.

This tea is very delicious, and I can definitely see the similarity to their Golden Needle King. It has that same amazing grain/oats taste that I love, but this one is a tad lighter. The texture and lightness conjured up visions of marshmallows (although this isn’t really a sweet tea). I also got a very lovely pastry note that reminded me of my favorite Yunnan teas. Yum! There was, of course, the ubiquitous hay flavor that I have tasted in every white tea so far, I find it to be so comforting and it melded beautifully with the grainy oat flavors.

Overall, this was very similar to Shang’s Golden Needle King, but with a lighter touch and a lovely marshmallowy soft texture. Love it! :)

Flavors: Grain, Hay, Marshmallow, Oats, Pastries

Preparation
180 °F / 82 °C 2 min, 30 sec 2 tsp 8 OZ / 236 ML
mj

I’m on a white tea kick lately too. I’m picking more up here and there

boychik

mj, Shang’s white is exceptional. and im not white tea lover. especially aged, you gotta try it

Cameron B.

boychik, I didn’t see the aged ones in the store… Maybe I just missed them. :(

boychik

http://www.shangtea.com/aged-white-loose
you still in Kansas,right? you can come back. they dont have it in samples, thats why you havent notice it.

boychik

Sample most of them, thanks to Nicole. when i placed an order, i got 3 teas:
Bai Lin Kung fu
Loose Aged White
Tangerine Blossom

mj

Thanks, boychik! I’ll have to place an order with them at some point :)

boychik

i think they have a sale now ;P

mj

Noooo, boychik, what are you doing to me?? I’ve already been seduced by the impending Teavivre sale and I need more Whispering Pines because that is my steady state. White Rhino by Butiki is calling to me too. LOL, I’ll add Shang tea to the queue

boychik

Ready to help, always! Haha
But seriously you can get samples and be ready for BF. they don’t have aged white though in sample size.

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40

Another tea from the Chanakara variety boxes I found while looking through old things at my mom’s. I have no idea what a guanabana is, so I looked it up. Apparently it’s the same thing as a soursop, which is a fruit that visually reminds me of a giant green burr. I kind of chose this randomly as my caffeine-free tea to have tonight while in bed. Brewed one bag in boiling water for 5 minutes.

Bleck… This basically tastes like weak, tart rosehip and hibiscus water. I don’t get a “vanilla-scented” anything, or even citrus. Just tart water.

Boo hiss. That is all I have to say, Stash.

Flavors: Hibiscus, Rosehips, Tart

Preparation
Boiling 5 min, 0 sec 8 OZ / 236 ML

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This was my wildcard purchase at Shang today. It sounded interesting and it was only $6.50 for a box of ten pouches, so I figured why not? I like dates. I have no idea what dong quai tastes like (apparently it’s the same thing as angelica root, but I don’t know what that tastes like either).

So I mixed a packet up in hot water while my sister was over for dinner, because we were both curious about it. I originally did 6 ounces, but bumped it up to 8 after the first taste. This is incredibly sweet stuff. I mean, it’s literally like drinking honey and molasses in water. I realize dates are sweet, but dayum! And apparently dong quai tastes like celery leaves, because there’s a very strong celery leaf flavor in here that doesn’t go well at all with the sweetness.

Overall, this is odd but not terrible. I’m not really sure I should give it a rating even… I wouldn’t even know where to begin with this one! :P

Flavors: Celery, Dates, Honey, Molasses, Sweet

Preparation
8 OZ / 236 ML
Tommy Toadman

I wanna try this one too,I like trying the little instant tea powders :)

Cameron B.

Hah, well I’d definitely be willing to send you a couple of packets if you’re up for it! :P

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93
drank Golden Needle King by Shang Tea
4330 tasting notes

Nicole recommended that I go visit Shang Tea while I’m in Kansas City, so we drove there this morning to see what they had to offer. There was a very nice man working there who brewed us up some samples to try and seemed very knowledgeable about their teas. I noticed later that there was a photo on the wall of him in the tea fields. Apparently he goes there about 2 or 3 months out of the year, he told us. I’m not sure whether he was the owner or not, but he was very nice and I wish I had asked him his name. I ended up buying samples of several different teas and a box of some interesting-looking instant mix.

So I ended up steeping this tea three times throughout the day, the first at 3 minutes, then 4 and 5 for the other two. I think this may be the first tea I’ve had that I’ve enjoyed the second and third steeping more than the first. Honestly, I don’t remember that much about the first, as it was in the afternoon. I would describe it as a mixture of black and white teas. The second and (especially) the third steepings were fantastic, with an amazing creamy grain note that reminds me of something, but I can’t quite place it. I would call it similar to rice or cereal grains, and there’s a bit of a hay note as well. The texture is creamy and light. Yum! I may have to try for a fourth steep in the morning…

Flavors: Bread, Grain, Hay, Honey, Molasses

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 3 min, 0 sec 2 tsp 8 OZ / 236 ML
boychik

Thanks to Nicole i love Shang tea

MzPriss

TeaTiff turned me on to Shang. I really like this one a lot.

TeaTiff

You are in KC? If you need any suggestions for food or places to go send me a note. I am glad you got to visit Shang Tea!

Cameron B.

I did a fourth steep this morning, and it’s not bad, but a little weak. I think I should’ve gone for 10 minutes instead of 7.

Tommy Toadman

Sounds good :) i must try a Shang Tea sampler or something soon

Shang Tea

Thanks for the writeup Cameron and thanks for stopping in to visit us! Yes that was our owner Zehua Shang that you enjoyed tea with.

Cameron B.

Awesome! Thanks very much for the comment! My mother and I had a good time, she just tried the Sweet Leaf Tea that she purchased and she likes it a lot. :D And thanks to Zehua Shang for the great service!

Shang Tea

Fantastic, thanks for stopping by our shop when you visited Kansas City, and let me know if you have any other questions about our tea!

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85

So I found a couple of boxes of Chanakara Collection tea bags at my mom’s when I was going through some things. They were still wrapped in cellophane so I figured that they were probably still semi-fresh even though they’re a year or more old. There was a time in my tea past when I ordered several things from Stash’s website, and a box of these teas was one of them. I liked them so much that I ended up ordering a six-pack of boxes on Amazon, so that’s where these came from. I felt like having a nice chamomile blend this evening while watching Brave with my mom and boyfriend, so I opened one of the boxes and selected this tea. There don’t seem to be instructions anywhere on the box, so I just did boiling water for 5 minutes. I could definitely steep this one longer if I wanted a stronger flavor.

Overall, I find this to be a perfectly nice and pleasant chamomile-based tisane. I’m not really familiar with lotus or chrysanthemum flowers, so I couldn’t tell you what they add to this, and I found that the linden blossom tea I tried tasted quite similar to chamomile. So overall, this is mostly a chamomile tisane with a little bit of extra. There’s definitely a honey note, and something that reminds me of sweet pastries.

I was pleasantly surprised by this tisane, and I could definitely see myself keeping it around as a nighttime treat.

Flavors: Floral, Honey, Pastries

Preparation
Boiling 5 min, 0 sec 8 OZ / 236 ML

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90

Hello from Kansas City! My boyfriend and I are here visiting my mother for a week. We got up at 4 AM this morning for our 6:15 AM fight, so needless to say, I am pooped. We had just under a two hour flight to Chicago, then just over an hour flight to Kansas City. It all went fairly smoothly aside from the fact that they put our one checked bag onto a different flight that arrived an hour-and-a-half later, so we had to wait for that. We took a little nap and now we’re just relaxing, ahhhhhhh

Anyway, I brought about five teas with me, and this was one of them! Partially because I need to be trying to sip down my TeaVivre samples, and partially because it smelled really good when I opened the tin last night. It’s amazing how different this tea is after trying so many “tippy” Yunnan teas from other companies. It’s so good! I haven’t had such a bready-tasting tea for a while now, and it’s making my mouth very happy. :D

I hope everyone is having a good weekend so far! I won’t be posting much for the next week, but I will be around daily to check messages and such. <3

P.S. – Upped the rating from 88 to 90!

Preparation
190 °F / 87 °C 3 min, 0 sec 1 tsp 8 OZ / 236 ML
Nicole

Welcome to a hot and muggy KC! You need to get to Shang while you are here! :)

Cameron B.

I might have to do that! I’m technically in a suburb of KC, but I might run over there anyway just to check it out. My mother did mention wanting to do a shopping trip! :P

TeaNecromancer

Eww you came here when it is all hot and gross, too bad, we were having some fantastic earlier this month.

I second the Shang recommendation, and then hey…it is not too far to the Plaza with all its wonderful fountains. Also Kauffman Gardens, if you are into lovely flowers and more fountains (really this place is lousy with the things)

mj

Enjoy your trip :)

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80
drank Birthday Cake by Butiki Teas
4330 tasting notes

My last Butiki sample from Mandy! This is actually one of the teas I’ve been most excited to try since I discovered Stacy’s website, and I ordered it in today’s sale. It’s very light and fluffy, mostly marshmallow leaf with various colored flower petals mixed in. Smells vaguely sweet and vanilla-esque.

This actually reminds me a lot of chamomile – it has that same musty, sweet floral taste. It’s very odd, considering there’s no chamomile in this blend… There’s also vanilla there, and a bit of butter. The whole thing is quite creamy and thick in texture.

I like this a lot! I can’t get over how similar it is to chamomile… I stopped buying chamomile blends because they’re just such a pain in the ass to brew. All those little tiny pollen strand things get stuck everywhere. But this is a nice alternative to that! Hooray!

Flavors: Butter, Cake, Marshmallow, Sweet, Vanilla

Preparation
Boiling 5 min, 0 sec 2 tsp 8 OZ / 236 ML
SarsyPie

Very interesting. I can’t believe you don’t like eating chamomile bits in your tea!

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85

Time for my first-ever sheng (and really my first-ever puerh)! Sarsonator sent me a surprise sample along with a note that we should do a tasting together. So hooray! The leaves are large and fluffy and lightly colored. They have a pleasant hay or autumn leaf smell, maybe with some fruitiness included. Time for some gong fu!

Method: 4g tea in 4oz water, 212 degrees, 5s rinse/5/5/10/10s

Rinse (5s): Smells like a pond! I taste dried stonefruit, autumn leaves, very sweet!

Steep 1 (5s): autumn leaves, dried apricot, golden raisin, lightly vegetal

Steep 2 (5s): fruit leather, raisins/prunes, mild autumn leaves, roasty

Steep 3 (10s): very roasty, autumn leaves, sharply vegetal, astringent

Steep 4 (10s): roasty, autumn leaves, dill, parsley, slight floral, buttery

Steep 5 (10s): similar to 4 with some fruit leather

Steep 6 (15s): similar to 2 (dried fruit, autumn leaves)

Steep 7 (20s): light autumn leaves, herbs, citrus

Steep 8 (30s): fruit leather, sweet, leaves

Steep 9 (60s): surprisingly not that strong or different, similar to 8, astringent

Steep 10 (2m): deeper fruit leather, autumn leaves, astringent

Overall, there wasn’t that much flavor variation between steeps, which makes me think that Sars’s method of combining steeps into a mug may be better suited to this, or even a western-style steep. The flavor was largely fruit leather (which is like concentrated dried fruit) and autumn leaves with a roasted edge. Quite yummy! The only issue I found with long steeps was some astringency, but that may have not been the case if I’d done a long steep at the beginning. Thanks to Sarsonator for the sample and for trying it out with me! :D

Flavors: Autumn Leaf Pile, Dried Fruit, Herbs, Roasted, Sweet

Preparation
Boiling 4 g 4 OZ / 118 ML
SarsyPie

Awesome notes!!!!! Next time, I am hunting for herbs!!!!

boychik

Yay for first sheng tasting!

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80

Hooray, another tea from Mandy! And this is actually a tea that I ordered in the sale, too. I love pistachios and creamy things, so it seemed like a perfect fit! The dry leaves are quite spindly and there are pieces of pistachio throughout. It smells like flavoring, with that alcoholic note that makes me go “ick”. I kind of get vanilla from it, I guess. I’ve learned so far to not really bother smelling these teas dry, as the alcohol scent overpowers everything else.

The brewed aroma is vegetal green tea, mostly spinach. There’s a little bit of vanilla scent too. This mostly tastes like green tea… I get a little bit of nuttiness, maybe some vanilla and cream in there. I would call it Green Tea Ice Cream. :P This kind of reminds me of Verdant’s Minnesota Blend in that it doesn’t taste how I would expect, it mostly tastes like a green tea with nice vanilla and nut notes. I think I will try this with more tea per cup when it arrives.

Of course, I added vanilla soymilk at the end, and of course, that makes it taste much more like ice cream! Still not necessarily pistachio though, more of a light green tea ice cream. :)

Flavors: Butternut Squash, Cream, Nuts, Spinach, Vanilla, Vegetal

Preparation
175 °F / 79 °C 2 min, 30 sec 1 tsp 8 OZ / 236 ML
SarsyPie

I know it’s not exactly related, but you just reminded me that I have vanilla soy ice cream AND matcha. I am SO making green tea ice cream later!

sherapop

Green tea ice cream is awesome, Sarsonator. Have you ever made it with coconut milk?

SarsyPie

Whaaat? No. How the heck do you do that!???? Sounds so good!!!!

sherapop

Sarsonator: it’s extremely easy. Just substitute canned coconut milk for regular milk. The texture and flavor are splendid!

SarsyPie

Oh, I believe you are talking about making it from scratch right? I’ve never done that! I just put matcha powder in vanilla ice cream and stir. :p

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85

Yay for Mandy! Lol… This is actually one of the teas I ordered in today’s sale, partially on a recommendaton from Sars and partially because it has marshmallow. I didn’t realize that the base tea is Zhen Qu (which I also ordered)! The leaves are super cute, curly and golden. I’m getting that same alcoholic small from this tea, which I guess is just a byproduct of the flavoring. I do smell some chocolate under it, but not much else. 3 minutes, goooo!

Brewed, it smells like those chocolate oranges that I love around the holidays! I don’t know if this is a turn-off for some people, but there is definitely an oily layer on the top of this tea, especially since I stirred the tea before taking the basket out, to make sure the chocolate chips dissolved. Doesn’t bother me much, but it’s definitely there. Yum, this tastes like chocolate oranges too! Definitely the dark chocolate variety. I’m not sure how much marshmallow I get, but there’s definitely a sweetness here and I don’t think it’s coming from that dark chocolate. This is definitely the best chocolate tea I’ve had.

…I totally added soymilk to the second half of my cup, just for kicks. Yum chocolate orange mousse! ;) So glad I ordered this one, thanks for the recommendation, Sarsy! I’m beginning to think all flavored teas benefit from some vanilla soymilk, lol. It adds creaminess without that overpowering “cream” taste that I get from using half-and-half.

Flavors: Dark Chocolate, Marshmallow, Orange

Preparation
200 °F / 93 °C 3 min, 0 sec 1 tsp 8 OZ / 236 ML
SarsyPie

I am going to make this with soymilk next time!!!!

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Hi, I’m Cameron!

I’m a 30-something software engineer currently living in Austin, Texas with my husband and our two pugs, Gobo and Ume. I tend to cycle between my different hobbies, and they include piano, knitting, video games, board games, miniature painting, planners, bento, Korean skincare, and – of course – TEA! But really, what I’m best at is “collecting” hobby-related things… ;)

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- February sipdowns: 5
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I prefer my tea lukewarm or at room temperature and without milk or sugar. I steep Western style, and fluctuate between using big mugs or small teapots depending on the season.

I am always up for a swap! Just let me know if you’d like to try something in my cupboard.

Tea Preferences:
I enjoy both flavored and unflavored teas in many forms. These days, I drink mostly flavored teas, and I tend to gravitate most toward black, green, oolong, and herbal varieties. I do have a special fondness for straight Japanese green teas, however.

I do not sweeten my teas, and pre-sweetened teas are usually too sweet for me. I also do not enjoy stevia (or monkfruit, etc.).

I tend to reach for fruitier flavors rather than desserty ones these days, but I do have favorites from both categories. Willing to try anything once! There are a few ingredients/flavors that aren’t generally my jam, such as coconut, rose, lavender, and chocolate flavoring. But I also have teas that I love with some of those things, too! :)

Favorite Companies:
3 Leaf
Bird & Blend
Dammann Frères
Harney & Sons
Kyoto Obubu Tea Farms
Lupicia
Old Barrel Tea Co
Simpson & Vail
Taiwan Tea Crafts
TeaVivre

Tea Rating Scale:
90-100: Outstanding! Permanent cupboard resident
80-89: Great – a possible staple
70-79: Good, but I wouldn’t buy it
60-69: It’s decent
50-59: Meh… I may or may not have finished the cup
40-49: Ick. Couldn’t finish it.
00-39: Repulsive, I spat it out

I will sometimes refrain from rating a tea if I feel I’m too biased due to my personal dislikes, or if I suspect the sample has been compromised by age or scent contamination.

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