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It has been nearly a month since I drank this one. Other than this morning’s Copper Knot Hongcha, this has shaped up to be a green tea sort of a day. Maybe I was in need of more calming vibes than my more typical day of mostly black teas could provide.

EC&M is a standard green, really quite lovely. I had it extra strong, with a three minute steep (Teavana recommends one minute) for a full bodied but not bitter brew. Just what I was looking for.

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175 °F / 79 °C 3 min, 0 sec
chadao

You give this tea the highest possible rating? Do you work for Teavana or something, or is your palate too naive to recognize a truly good green tea?

SimplyJenW

@chadao The worst kind of tea snobbery is the rude kind.

chadao

I apologize to both of you for the brutality of my comments. It was not respectful, nor was it becoming of a true tea fanatic. I hope you might forgive me for my words.

@Camiah: let me rephrase my disagreement with your rating. The only reason that I cannot give this tea anywhere near a 100 is because it tastes like an everyday green tea. At 15 dollars for 2oz, it is just not worth it for me. However, to each their own, and I hope you enjoy your tea ventures from here on out.

SimplyJenW

@chadao Perhaps this is the best green tea she has ever tasted and she has perfected the brew time for her palate. You cannot assume that everyone on Steepster has access to the finest teas on earth at the most favorable price. Sometimes what is local and easily obtainable is perfection.

chadao

@Cheryl. Fair accusation. No, I don’t work for Seven Cups, but I will admit, I do have a bias toward this company that introduced me to the finest Chinese teas in the world. I will also admit that I have something against Teavana. It seems to me that this company thrives upon selling low quality tea at ridiculously marked up prices, assuming the acceptance of a customer who knows now better, thus surviving on lies and duplicity. Once again, I will ask forgiveness for the harsh words in my first comment. However, I will not ask forgiveness for championing my opinions, which is something that we are all entitled to, and something that I will not rob anyone of (this does not mean that I will not explain why I disagree with other peoples’ opinions).

Again, though, you make a valid point of suspecting my ratings. I have only been on this site for two days.

chadao

I’m sorry, I didn’t realize I was fighting with someone on here. I simply thought that I was respectfully disagreeing with the thoughts and opinions of others, regardless of my own naivite. Continuing this civil discussion…. I once again will state that I neither work for nor own Seven Cups. I work for a much larger, publicly owned tea corporation, essentially as a retail slave. I love my job, as weird as that sounds. I know the owner of Seven Cups, and she is the only certified Chinese Tea master to own a tea shop in the States. Naturally, her products support her certifications. She spends 3-4 months on Chinese tea farms, selecting only the best teas to bring home to us silly Americans :)

Anyway, Cheryl, your posts indicate that you know something about tea. Could you possibly recommend me to some teas and companies that I might enjoy, so that I could expand my palate?

SimplyJenW

Hi Cheryl! Those with an agenda usually show their true colors right away.
Personally, I love being a silly American. It shows me who is worthy of my business by still treating me with respect, and who is worthy of my respect.
@chadoa I am sure you have plenty of places to buy tea without a recommendation from me.

Camiah

So I suppose it is my turn to weigh in on this. Chadao, your original comment was condescending and rude, and an extremely unfortunate choice of words if you really wanted to know the reasoning behind my rating, the evolution and development of my tastes, and my feelings about Teavana. A better choice of words might have actually stimulated an interesting discussion, that now, I can guarantee you, will never happen. I accept your apology, and would simply recommend that in future comments (to me or anyone else) you have a modicum of class and check your condescension at the door.

Camiah

Hi Cheryl! It was actually quite interesting to come home this afternoon and rubberneck the thread. I didn’t get a chance to respond when I got up this morning, and it did warm my heart to see some response from others. I was rather gobsmacked when I saw the original comment.

Camiah

Cheryl, I forgot to ask, what did you order from Teavivre? I loved the samples I got from them and quickly drinking down all my black tea so I can get the Keemun and Yunnan Golden tip. I had a little too much fun tea buying at the beginning of the year/end of last year and need to use up what I have before I get more.

SimplyJenW

Nice order, Cheryl. I am getting my third order from there soon….. yes, it is a sickness, that ordering of tea……

Hi Camiah. Sorry to start the trainwreck today, but nothing burns me up more than people who think only their opinion is the right one…..such narrow-mindedness…… (And I would have loved the discussion on how you came to love this tea!)

chadao

@Camiah Thank you for your pardon. I hope that I can continue conversing with you on a more civilized level. On another note, I tried this tea yesterday, and I have to say it was better than the last time I tried it. It was very refreshing on this hot spring day in CO, and I can see why you like it so much!

chadao

@ SimplyJenW I like your input about being a silly American. As to agendas, who does not have an agenda? Who on earth can live a fulfilled life with out an agenda, or as I like to call it, purpose? Of course I will show my true colors from the get go, this is who I am and I am proud of it. I only hope that by joining this blog, I might be able to refine my agendas so that they are more in line with truth, and I thank you for helping me toward this goal.

chadao

I know that Cheryl is done talking to me, but I have to clarify one thing for everyone. I have done my own googling, and I see no connection between Seven Cups and ebay’s China Cha Dao. Before I get suspicious of a fellow steepster member’s veracity, I wonder if someone can show me how these two companies are connected.

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chadao

You give this tea the highest possible rating? Do you work for Teavana or something, or is your palate too naive to recognize a truly good green tea?

SimplyJenW

@chadao The worst kind of tea snobbery is the rude kind.

chadao

I apologize to both of you for the brutality of my comments. It was not respectful, nor was it becoming of a true tea fanatic. I hope you might forgive me for my words.

@Camiah: let me rephrase my disagreement with your rating. The only reason that I cannot give this tea anywhere near a 100 is because it tastes like an everyday green tea. At 15 dollars for 2oz, it is just not worth it for me. However, to each their own, and I hope you enjoy your tea ventures from here on out.

SimplyJenW

@chadao Perhaps this is the best green tea she has ever tasted and she has perfected the brew time for her palate. You cannot assume that everyone on Steepster has access to the finest teas on earth at the most favorable price. Sometimes what is local and easily obtainable is perfection.

chadao

@Cheryl. Fair accusation. No, I don’t work for Seven Cups, but I will admit, I do have a bias toward this company that introduced me to the finest Chinese teas in the world. I will also admit that I have something against Teavana. It seems to me that this company thrives upon selling low quality tea at ridiculously marked up prices, assuming the acceptance of a customer who knows now better, thus surviving on lies and duplicity. Once again, I will ask forgiveness for the harsh words in my first comment. However, I will not ask forgiveness for championing my opinions, which is something that we are all entitled to, and something that I will not rob anyone of (this does not mean that I will not explain why I disagree with other peoples’ opinions).

Again, though, you make a valid point of suspecting my ratings. I have only been on this site for two days.

chadao

I’m sorry, I didn’t realize I was fighting with someone on here. I simply thought that I was respectfully disagreeing with the thoughts and opinions of others, regardless of my own naivite. Continuing this civil discussion…. I once again will state that I neither work for nor own Seven Cups. I work for a much larger, publicly owned tea corporation, essentially as a retail slave. I love my job, as weird as that sounds. I know the owner of Seven Cups, and she is the only certified Chinese Tea master to own a tea shop in the States. Naturally, her products support her certifications. She spends 3-4 months on Chinese tea farms, selecting only the best teas to bring home to us silly Americans :)

Anyway, Cheryl, your posts indicate that you know something about tea. Could you possibly recommend me to some teas and companies that I might enjoy, so that I could expand my palate?

SimplyJenW

Hi Cheryl! Those with an agenda usually show their true colors right away.
Personally, I love being a silly American. It shows me who is worthy of my business by still treating me with respect, and who is worthy of my respect.
@chadoa I am sure you have plenty of places to buy tea without a recommendation from me.

Camiah

So I suppose it is my turn to weigh in on this. Chadao, your original comment was condescending and rude, and an extremely unfortunate choice of words if you really wanted to know the reasoning behind my rating, the evolution and development of my tastes, and my feelings about Teavana. A better choice of words might have actually stimulated an interesting discussion, that now, I can guarantee you, will never happen. I accept your apology, and would simply recommend that in future comments (to me or anyone else) you have a modicum of class and check your condescension at the door.

Camiah

Hi Cheryl! It was actually quite interesting to come home this afternoon and rubberneck the thread. I didn’t get a chance to respond when I got up this morning, and it did warm my heart to see some response from others. I was rather gobsmacked when I saw the original comment.

Camiah

Cheryl, I forgot to ask, what did you order from Teavivre? I loved the samples I got from them and quickly drinking down all my black tea so I can get the Keemun and Yunnan Golden tip. I had a little too much fun tea buying at the beginning of the year/end of last year and need to use up what I have before I get more.

SimplyJenW

Nice order, Cheryl. I am getting my third order from there soon….. yes, it is a sickness, that ordering of tea……

Hi Camiah. Sorry to start the trainwreck today, but nothing burns me up more than people who think only their opinion is the right one…..such narrow-mindedness…… (And I would have loved the discussion on how you came to love this tea!)

chadao

@Camiah Thank you for your pardon. I hope that I can continue conversing with you on a more civilized level. On another note, I tried this tea yesterday, and I have to say it was better than the last time I tried it. It was very refreshing on this hot spring day in CO, and I can see why you like it so much!

chadao

@ SimplyJenW I like your input about being a silly American. As to agendas, who does not have an agenda? Who on earth can live a fulfilled life with out an agenda, or as I like to call it, purpose? Of course I will show my true colors from the get go, this is who I am and I am proud of it. I only hope that by joining this blog, I might be able to refine my agendas so that they are more in line with truth, and I thank you for helping me toward this goal.

chadao

I know that Cheryl is done talking to me, but I have to clarify one thing for everyone. I have done my own googling, and I see no connection between Seven Cups and ebay’s China Cha Dao. Before I get suspicious of a fellow steepster member’s veracity, I wonder if someone can show me how these two companies are connected.

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