A Steepster Cleanup Initiative
For the Admins — I’m pretty sure I know how we can go about merging duplicate entries now. The problem I’m running into is the search-box isn’t working. It’s either a bug, or we don’t have the correct permission to access it. I’m guessing it’s the permission thing, as it bumps me back to the ‘main page’.
Example:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/291461383697203201/816894483970392064/unknown.png
These are two notes currently located on a Duplicate Tea, that I’d love to move over to the “correct” tea. Right now, I can move these duplicate notes OFF of the duplicate tea, but I can’t save as I don’t have permission to edit reviews or notes.
If I go to the ‘correct’ tea, then ‘Too many objects, use search box above’, and start typing to find that same note—the box won’t autocomplete or change to find that or any note.
BUT, if I do the same thing, scroll down to ‘Ingredients’ and start typing, suggestions will immediately pop up. On top of that, if I click ‘+ Add new note’ I get bumped back to the main page, whereas if I hit ‘+ Add new (mod) tea tags’ I get a new dialogue box to let me do just that.
Can we have the permissions to reshuffle Notes & Reviews? If we’re given permissions, we can start manually ‘merging’ Duplicate Tea Entries ourselves by moving over the reviews/notes to the ‘accepted’ tea, and then deleting the now-empty duplicate.
Here’s an entire rundown of the process with screenshots. Since I’m lacking the Permission to edit Notes & Reviews, I can’t save my progress, but I can at least show it:
I just found some duplicates for English Breakfast from Stash Tea. Two of them each have several reviews and the third only has a handful.
https://steepster.com/teas/stash-tea-company/637-english-breakfast
https://steepster.com/teas/stash-tea-company/15791-english-breakfast-black-tea
https://steepster.com/teas/stash-tea-company/1498-english-breakfast-tea
A duplicate without any reviews – https://steepster.com/teas/bigelow/89246-chamomile-vanilla-honey-duplicate.
I was going to delete this, but when I poked at the back-end, it shows it’s got an orphaned, textless review tied to it, so I waffled…
I’m still waiting on admins to get back to me on being able to move reviews trapped on duplicate-teas to the correct tea. But keeping this thread as an archive of everything that needs to be fixed…
This may not be the best place to post, or maybe companies are allowed to do this, but I just came across Rishi Tea’s account and they’ve given several of their teas ratings of 100. Not sure if there’s anything even to be done but though I should mention it in case it’s skewing the overall ratings.
So technically (under the old admins) there was never any ruling against this, moderation-wise, it was only that any company that got caught doing it was Loudly Shamed by the Community. So most any company that was active on the forums, didn’t do it (and that largely curbed the problem for brands people cared to engage with), but companies like Rishi who never really participated in the forums (I actually don’t think I’ve ever seen them post?), they probably don’t care.
Weirdly, I poked back through their tasting notes, and originally they weren’t rating any of the notes they left. They started halfway through, for some reason. Still pretty heavily frowned upon. (It looks like originally they only swooped in to tidy up people’s entries—posting to teas that had been discontinued, etcetera).
I did notice that on their most recent review, which was still several years ago, they were told about the discussion guidelines post from another member. Rishi admitted then that they didn’t know about the post, but still left all their ratings up. They did stop posting/rating after that at least.
Okay, so I know AJ says above that we are waiting to hear what Steepster says about merging duplicate teas, so when I notice them, I will keep editing this post to add them when I find them rather than keep posting new entries for each set of duplicates I find… then they can eventually be handled? Tell me if that doesn’t make sense. :D
https://www.steepster.com/teas/fusion-teas/70878-toasted-caramel-rooibos
https://www.steepster.com/teas/fusion-teas/32262-toasted-caramel
https://www.steepster.com/teas/teagschwendner/1234-assam-mokalbari-2nd-flush-sftgfop1
https://www.steepster.com/teas/teagschwendner/90264-assam-mokalbari-second-flush-sftgfop1
https://www.steepster.com/teas/teagschwendner/90268-assam-mokalbari-second-flush
https://www.steepster.com/teas/52teas/99011-holiday-pudding-black-tea
https://www.steepster.com/teas/52teas/98700-holiday-pudding
https://www.steepster.com/teas/english-tea-store/34364-lovers-leap-estate-tea
https://www.steepster.com/teas/english-tea-store/14998-lovers-leap-darjeeling
https://www.steepster.com/teas/justea/39750-mt-kenya-black
https://www.steepster.com/teas/justea/76024-mt-kenya-black
https://www.steepster.com/teas/justea/65857-mount-kenya
I’ll do the same as tea-sipper and post all my entries here.
https://steepster.com/teas/yogi-tea/32342-caramel-apple-spice
https://steepster.com/teas/yogi/80842-caramel-apple-spice-slim-life
**These appear to have the same ingredients, so I’m guessing Yogi just changed the name at some point. Both have tasting notes.
https://steepster.com/teas/harney-and-sons/78558-goji-berry
https://steepster.com/teas/harney-and-sons/80167-goji-berry-fruit-tea
https://steepster.com/teas/52teas/34193-walter-bishop-honeybush
https://steepster.com/teas/52teas/68433-walter-bishops-sublime-strawberry-milkshake-honeybush-tea
**I think these may be duplicates but not 100% sure. I know sometimes there are different versions of 52teas blends.
https://steepster.com/teas/davidstea/97794-magic-potion
https://steepster.com/teas/davidstea/80085-magic-potion-discontinued
**I was just looking at this one and there are two blends of the same name on the DAVIDsTEA website. The Canada site (https://www.davidstea.com/ca_en/tea/magic-potion-tea/10642DT01VAR0042716.html) has different ingredients than the USA site (https://www.davidstea.com/us_en/tea/magic-potion-tea/10927US01VAR0070608.html). The package I have at home matches the ingredients on Canada’s Magic Potion page.
https://steepster.com/teas/adagio-teas-duplicate/35-scorpio
https://steepster.com/teas/adagio-teas/29653-scorpio
https://steepster.com/teas/stash-tea/1555-pomegranate-raspberry-green
https://steepster.com/teas/stash-tea/28161-pomegranate-raspberry-green-tea
https://steepster.com/teas/stash-tea/656-double-spice-chai
https://steepster.com/teas/stash-tea/780-double-spice-chai-tea
Definitely keep adding them here. I think it’ll keep a tidy record with notes all in one place until we’re finally able to deal with them properly.
Plus the activity bumping the topic will hopefully keep it on Adagio’s radar so they’ll hopefully get back to us.
Not sure if this can be changed, but it looks like Arthur Dove Tea Co. is now called Biscuit and Brew Tea House.
Hmm it can be changed, but it presents a bit of a conundrum if someone has a tea labeled with the old name and searches for that.
Should we use a similar strategy to renamed teas and call it “Biscuit and Brew Tea House (formerly Arthur Dove Tea Co.)”? That’s a bit long though…
I would vote to just create a new entity for the company with a new name. That way older tees can be recorded to the old name and newer ones to the new name.
If we kept both the old name and the new name, we might end up with duplicate teas in the database. That would be my worry. I remember Bird & Blend used to be have a different name – Bluebird, I think? It looks like we only use the new name for that company. Does anyone remember how Steepster managed that change at the time?
We’d definitely end up with a bunch of duplicate teas, and then split reviews. Eventually everything under the old name would become ‘obsolete’, because people won’t know to associate them with the new name.
I think brackets is the way to go, even if it’s messy. Unfortunately the search-function doesn’t pick up things in descriptions. The only other thought I have, is in the moderator tools we can add misspellings that will redirect people, but I think that’d just cause confusion if you put the full “old” name in there.
Bumping this back up, as it’s still kinda relevant. I realize I should make more tutorials for all of the changes we’re able to make on the back-end. I did a bunch of work/redundancy adjustments to tags and ingredients way back when it first dropped.
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