2007 CNNP "8891 Red Label" Raw Pu-erh

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Pu-erh Tea
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Flavors
Camphor, Honey, Smoke, Decayed Wood, Floral, Grapefruit, Hay, Stonefruit, Autumn Leaf Pile, Cranberry, Earth, Pear, Raisins, Wet Earth, Wood, Dried Fruit, Spices, Sawdust, Tobacco, Vegetal, Musty, Whiskey, Sweet, Chestnut, Mineral, Mushrooms, Nutmeg, Rose, Spinach, Caramel, Sweet, Warm Grass, Spicy, Dark Chocolate, Straw
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Boiling 0 min, 30 sec 6 g 16 oz / 480 ml

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  • “Had a sample of this a few weeks ago, did not review because I should have let it acclimate. It was a bit watery and flat, curse me for being impatient. First sip this time around had me dizzy for...” Read full tasting note
    85
  • “I had high expectations after reading the other reviews but my experience is for some reasons a bit underwhelming. I’m getting a lot of camphor, medicinal and honey flavours that don’t like so much...” Read full tasting note
    78
  • “Overall not bad, but too smokey for my taste. The smokiness overpowered everything else for me. I am a pu noob, but I was surprised by how green this tasted for its age. YS says dry-wet guangdong,...” Read full tasting note
    71
  • “This is a fairly simple semi-aged tea with a warming cha qi and an earth/fruity profile. It has aromas of cranberry, smoke, decaying wood, wet earth, and autumn leaf pile. In the taste I could then...” Read full tasting note
    76

From Yunnan Sourcing

8891 Red Mark is one of two 8891’s released in 2007 by the China Tea Co (aka Zhong Cha/CNNP). The other 8891 is a brown label and is identical in all regards to the red label. We love confusing stuff like this. I tasted both side by side and could not tell them apart. I like red on pu-erh wrappers better!

Most importantly this tea is incredibly good tasting and has a very unique flavor profile. It’s been stored in Guangdong since 2007 in a dry-wet storage condition (wet stored but on the dry side of the wet storage spectrum). The raw material is from Nan Jian area of Yunnan which is technically part of Dali prefecture. I suspect the given the name “Da Li Cang Shan Xue Yin Yuan Cha” (Dali Town, Cang Mountain, Snow Mark Round Cake) and the font used that this was pressed for the CNNP company by the Nan Jian Tu Lin tea company. The material is fairly tippy, large leaf and obviously pure assamica. Not only that, but the raw material used is not from young plantation bushes as it’s quite burly and large in scale.

Compression is medium, not too tight at all and the leaves easily separate in layers from the cake. The tea brews up an orange-red tea soup with a pungent aroma of flowers, mushrooms and earth. The taste is clean with no musty wet storage notes, but does have some some earthy notes. There is a kind of pronounced spice and cloves taste and aroma with a strong viscous sweetness throughout. I have a hard time putting words to this experience, but I find myself wanting to drink it again and again.

500 grams per cake

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19 Tasting Notes

85
57 tasting notes

Had a sample of this a few weeks ago, did not review because I should have let it acclimate. It was a bit watery and flat, curse me for being impatient.

First sip this time around had me dizzy for a minute. Floral-ish earthiness at first, sweet, good huigan, becoming medicinal, clove-ish, almost minty. Nice dynamism in each cup.

I should start noting the music I listen to during a tea session. In this case, it’s Flying Lotus. Went to his show last Thursday (at an outdoor venue) and rediscovering old favorites.

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 5 g 3 OZ / 100 ML

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32 tasting notes

I had high expectations after reading the other reviews but my experience is for some reasons a bit underwhelming. I’m getting a lot of camphor, medicinal and honey flavours that don’t like so much and don’t get often mentioned by other reviews. The tea is strong and vibrant, not particularly complex but anyway I found it entertaining and I liked the qi.
This tea reminds me of Bowmore 12 whiskey.

Smelling the wet leaves I get welcomed by a bomb of smoke and camphor. Bittersweet. Herbal medicine. Wood. Honey.

1
I get some nauseating overly sweet apple/raw potatoes puree aroma.
Light smoke. Astringency, honey aftertaste. Tingling in the throat.

2
Very sweet honey and medicinal herbs. Heavy. Raw potatoes.
Honey aftertaste in the throat, heaviness in the head. Forehead tingling, loud and slow heartbeat.

3
Herbal reminds me of yerba mate.
Strong honey.
Liquor more full-bodied and interesting. More acidity spreading around. Brown sugar, gentle aftertaste. Relaxing, grounding. No bitterness

4
Forest. Hyppie camping. The smell of wet nature, cloudy day, a campfire.
The liquor is very sweet and vibrant. I feel I can get easily tired of this type of sweetness.
The base is still herbs and honey.
I feel relaxed and comfortable. I forget about everything else.

5
Same as before plus Incense.
A vague feeling of black pepper and ripe fruits.

6
A bit more astringency and Cooling sensation. No big changes. Slightly dry finish. Still relaxing.

7
Flavour is losing intensity without adding anything new. Liquor is steady and clean. A bit boring.
I feel some tension. More pepper spiciness.

8
Camphor it’s been there the whole time and still doesn’t give up.
The tea keeps going. I feel like stopping.

Edit 26/07/21
I had another session with this and I enjoyed it much more. I like the smoke element and the camphor was not overwhelming this time. Maybe I’m developing a taste for aged sheng?

Flavors: Camphor, Honey, Smoke

Preparation
5 g 3 OZ / 75 ML

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71
21 tasting notes

Overall not bad, but too smokey for my taste. The smokiness overpowered everything else for me. I am a pu noob, but I was surprised by how green this tasted for its age. YS says dry-wet guangdong, so I guess that would explain it. Flavor was again smoke, musty/mushroomy wood, damp hay/barnyard, something savory/meaty, and some citrus or spicy fruit – maybe grapefruit. Mid steeps leaned towards darker fruits. Pleasant round mouthfeel. Slight tartness as it cooled. Satisfying returning sweetness. Not much here that I haven’t found elsewhere, but I will revisit it.

Flavors: Decayed Wood, Floral, Grapefruit, Hay, Smoke, Stonefruit

Preparation
3 tsp 2 OZ / 45 ML

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76
684 tasting notes

This is a fairly simple semi-aged tea with a warming cha qi and an earth/fruity profile. It has aromas of cranberry, smoke, decaying wood, wet earth, and autumn leaf pile. In the taste I could then detect flavours of fermented pear, plant leaves, and geosmin; followed by a sweet drying aftertaste with a raisin note to it. The body is medium to light and the mouthfeel bubbly and throat-tingling.

Thanks for the sample derk! :)

Flavors: Autumn Leaf Pile, Cranberry, Decayed Wood, Earth, Pear, Raisins, Smoke, Wet Earth, Wood

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C 0 min, 30 sec 6 g 4 OZ / 130 ML

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78
6 tasting notes

Solid dry-storage sheng for the price. It has a sheng taste, on which there is elegant layers : ried fruit, spice, a bit of hay maybe ? Balanced and pleasant.

Flavors: Dried Fruit, Spices

Preparation
Boiling 0 min, 15 sec 6 g 3 OZ / 80 ML

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25 tasting notes

I really liked it. I didn’t notice the fruit referenced in these other reviews on here but the wood, hay, limited spice range, pronounced earthiness (like beets and potato skin), and good sweetness were all very pleasant, cleaner than that sounds. Some teas fade to become subtle at this age but this definitely didn’t, and it didn’t include any off storage-related flavors. It’s complex enough that I suspect my interpretation of it will change over a number of tastings, and intense enough that I’d expect over the coming years it will soften and deepen but won’t fade fast. As a limitation it wasn’t necessarily subtle or refined in character, but that still worked well for me. I reviewed it further here:

http://teaintheancientworld.blogspot.com/2019/04/2007-cnnp-8891-sheng-from-yunnan.html

HaChaChaCha

I enjoyed your write-up on your website..

john-in-siam

Thanks. I’ve tried this again since, without going through trying to make notes, and still liked it, but that earthiness really does stand out. Maybe it is a bit towards dirt from beets or potato skin; I can see why this wouldn’t work for everyone.

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5 tasting notes

A regular in my rotation. I break up the large pieces at the beginning of the week. My ratio is 1g/15ml and I rinse with just off boiling for 20sec. The smell of the wet leaves in the pot is very good. Sometimes I drink half the rinse. The drink is a clear, amber color and starts soft in contrast to the pungent aroma. The taste deepens towards the aroma in first five infusions but never tips over to roundness. Instead I get 苦乾 if I oversteep. “Objectively”, there isn’t anything after 10 infusions, but I go for 15 out of this tea. The first six are dynamic and then things calm down and become sweet. The leaf smell goes between sweet camphor/old wood, raisins/nuts, lots of other things too. Whatever. It’s amazing.

I react well to this tea and feel alert, grounded, and calm. On an empty stomach that alertness quickly becomes energy hard for me to control and things turn into a blur. Better to avoid that and always eat so we can work together. The last four infusions are soothing – they reinforce the earlier experience and I rehydrate. I always feel like it was a pretty good day’s work and am worn out just right.

Preparation
205 °F / 96 °C

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84
218 tasting notes

Brewed Western-style because I was lazy.

Smells smokey like whiskey, and a bit musty, but with a bright and fruity element too, like raisins.

Tastes really refreshing, light, and has a mineral note like the illusion of drinking fresh authentic mineral water (haha). Another nice feature is that this tea is lighter coloured and doesn’t stain my teeth. This tea has really grown on me and I might buy the full cake.

Increased rating to 86.

Flavors: Musty, Raisins, Whiskey

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85
53 tasting notes

Very nice semi-aged raw. Delicious. Very smooth, warming tea. Complex flavor with some tobacco aroma (hardly smoky though), but mainly a deep, satisfying sweetness. Nice lasting sensation. Clearly aged, though it has no wet-storage basement aromas whatsoever. When they sold out at YS, I was happy to buy one more on TaoBao, which tastes very similar to the one I got from YS.

Flavors: Sweet, Tobacco

Preparation
Boiling 1 min, 45 sec 3 tsp 150 OZ / 4436 ML

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89
30 tasting notes

Hey teaheads!

Ahhh I decided to pull this tea out for the first session in a while, and boy did this tea not disappoint. I blindly picked out this tea and made sure not to see the label until the third steep, and I could have never guessed that this was factory tea. It just tastes so good, just everything that I love in a raw puerh all in a really good daily drinker. This is one of the teas that I would actually consider purchasing a whole cake, as the price to enjoyment is hard to beat, and a tea that I can see myself enjoying long into the future.

mrmopar

This one is yummy! Good to see you hope the Holy Month was well tor you!

Youssef

Haha thanks! Raamadan was amazing this year, but I really did miss my morning tea.

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