145 Tasting Notes

Purchasing from different vendors has taught me about my storage preferences. I’ve had several sessions with EoT’s 2012 Qi Sheng Gu, 2012 Bao Tang, 2014 Long Lan Xu 2006 Wild Peacock, and their 2000 Green Peacock. They all share the similar aroma and strong initial flavor of smoky prune in their first 3 steeps. I’m not a fan. I can only assume this is a storage issue since the affects are the same across teas. This is unfortunate, as I’ve heard nothing but good things about EoT.

The tea soup starts out cloudy orange and gradually transitions to yellow, which I find interesting. The smoky prune aroma is a turn off and only begins to recede after the 5th steep when the leaves release a tingly/numbing sensation and subdued floral notes I associate with 2015 YS Bang Dong and some YS Jinggu teas. I’m a big fan of this characteristic.

I’m annoyed by the fact that the storage has dominated the flavor and overall experience of what is probably a lovely tea (and other EoT teas), so far. I hope to return to this tasting note with positive edits.

The Essence of Tea

Strange… the Wild Peacock and Green Peacock come from different places and have had different storage from the other teas. Maybe there’s one with this flavour that has influenced the others while being shipped to you, or maybe the flavour is coming from elsewhere in your tea brewing. Try airing them our for a week or two and see if it helps.

tanluwils

I initially suspected the Wild Peacock is responsible for this effect, but since the samples are sealed I suspect there is another unknown variable at play. I find I’ve been storing them separately for a few weeks now and that initial smoky aroma/flavor is just starting to wane. I’m happy with structure of this tea after the 5-6th steep, so I hope that comes to the fore as the storage smell/flavors dissipate.

mrmopar

Keep us updated as I have the Wild Peacock and another on the way.

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Shout out to Honza for including a sample of this in my last order. The other two Chawangpu cakes (Mengsong and Hekai) tasted a bit off due to shipping and the dry DC winter, but this sample doesn’t seem to be affected by its transcontinental trip or the environment.

The dry leaf came as one whole tightly compressed chunk and smelled like charred sandalwood with subtle hints of fruit. The wet leaf aroma is reminiscent of a smoky yesheng purple tea varietal without being overly so and with more sweet grass in the background. The leaves are mostly small and only somewhat broken due to my poor prying efforts.

Flavors:
Initial steeps are much brighter, lively, and savory than I expected. The smoke, though still there, moves to the background after the 3rd steep revealing classical pu’er flavors of camphor (some have interpreted as gasoline), dried fruit, sandalwood, sweet peas/grass, and other sharp savory/floral notes I associate with an unmanaged tea garden.

Sensations/textures:
The tea soup is very pure, bright, nicely thick, and oily. Good Bulang energy that stays in my chest instead of my head which I like very much. Not much in the way of mouthfeel, but pleasant savory/borderline floral aftertaste.

It’s a comforting tea. Not impressive, yet it’s hard to explain why I this tea as much as I do. It’s certainly worthy of drinking now or aging. Here, the smoky hint is actually comforting and interesting. If the price stays this low, I may just add this to my next purchase from Chawangshop.

Addendum: 9 steeps later, the tea leaves are still flavorful with good strong energy. I’m only now noticing the mouthfeel and cooling/tingling sensation that accompanies the huigan. This is good base material.

Ludovitche

As far as my sample went, the smoke taste never went away, no matter how many steep !
It’s a good tea only if you like smoky taste :)

But I do agree that the energy from this tea is in the right place.

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My sample arrived with leaves largely intact with a fresh sweet scent. Brewed leaves have a musky floral sent, kind of like raw crystalized honey. The tea soup is a clear pale yellow.

I found this tea to be much more subtle and gentle than expected. It has those characteristic Mengku florals, nuttiness, bitters, and pungency, but more subdued that the 2015 YS Da Hu Sai, for example. It’s very pure and refreshing, nicely thick, and quite active in the mouth and throat—I got tingly and numbing rather than creamy.

This will probably improve in a few years, I think. Floral notes here are more savory than sweet. Fantastic energy in here as well. I’ve learned that Mengku-like teas have a cha qi that, for me, are more cerebral than other regions. This is very pleasant to drink now, but I think waiting 3-5 years will give this tea the time it needs to reveal its potential.

kevdog19

I feel the same way about the musky and lack of cream. Strong qi+ strong mouthfeel+ balanced flavors= strong persuasion to purchase.

tanluwils

Yes, I do find something intriguing about this tea, but alas, I’ve pretty much spent my tea budget for the year… I later learned this is technically Xigui tea as Bang Dong is right next door.

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Perhaps the most notable features of this tea are the visual appeal of the tea soup, velvety texture, and the smooth creaminess. It’s not super infusable—maybe no more than 7 steeps, but still very enjoyable in terms of mouthfeel and subtle flavors. This one is particularly soothing during those cold winter nights. The tea soup is a very clear and a beautiful deep burgundy.

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I’ve decided to stop ‘rating’ teas with numbers since they mean nothing to anyone but me. It’s hard to review teas during periods of irregular weather. This one is no exception. It was only after trying this tea 4 times using both a gaiwan and yixing over a week after it arrived was I able to pick out its true character.

Dried leaves smell like sweet grass while wet leaves are floral and musky. They are largely intact, veiny, large, and very green. Initial steeps are straight up bitterness with some hints of high floral notes, and vegetal notes of grilled asparagus and raw brussel sprouts. This is a powerful tea. Strong energy up front that eventually calms down going into the 5th brew. Nice mouth feel, superb huigan, and very persistent aftertaste. It’s obvious this will age into something interesting.

In mid-steeps, the bitterness while still there gradually is replaced by thick sweetness—the brown sugar type. The tea remains thick, textured, sweet-medicinal and vegetal until it finally gives out—by then I’ve lost count of steeps. This of course varies according to your brewing parameters.

Ubacat

I know what you mean about rating teas yet I continue to do it because it gives me a quick look of what I like in my cupboard.

tanluwils

Makes sense, but since I often look at reviews before making purchases I find these numbers quite misleading since my 80 is someone else’s 70.

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Lovely tea! Dried leaf: intact, attractive shapes, and are easily pried off the cake with a lovely floral fragrance. Wet leaves have a delicate wild flower aroma and are of a respectable olive green, nice and veiny. I normally taste the wash of teas I’ve been anticipating to try out.

The initial steeps have an upfront floral sweetness, cooling, tingly sensations, and almost spicy/nutty notes of raw/roasted brussel sprouts. Honestly, if there was a liquified form of honeysuckle it would taste like this. That kind of delicate but prominent floral note comes more to the fore as the tea soup thickens. The body on this is just wonderful and consistent through later steeps. It has a very pleasurable mouthfeel. There is strong cha qi that spreads to my core rather than to my head. Tea buzz sneaks in on the 3rd or so steep. Mid to later steeps are consistently honeysuckle-floral, wild flower honey, thick/velvety, and tingly/cooling, with that good kind of bitterness I look for in pu’er.

I’ve tried this with my gaiwan and yixing. The sweetness seems to be somewhat enhanced with the yixing, but not by much. The honeysuckle and vegetal notes are more obvious when using the gaiwan. The tea remains active in the mouth for a while after drinking. I can’t get enough of that mouthfeel and tingly sensation! I ended up purchasing two cakes.

Preparation
6 g 4 OZ / 130 ML
jschergen

Nice. I like this one a lot too. One of the two 2015 teas I actually bought.

tanluwils

Yeah, it’s an active tea, and very comfortable to drink. I’m very curious how it will age. It has almost the same body-affect on me as the Qing Mei Shan, only this one really gets to my core. I suspect this is a trait unique to gu shu cha. Which 2015 tea did you purchase? I picked up a cake of the Da Hu Sai—now that’s a powerful tea!

jschergen

If I recall correctly, those two were a bit too strong for me to drink. The Huangshan had the best balance and offered the smoothest experience with my parameters of course.. I also like the Da Qing, but ended up going with this one.

I picked up this and a pair of Bosch. Also own a Little Walk, but that was more of a blind buy for immediate drinking.

tanluwils

Yes, I don’t blame you. The Da Hu Sai’s cha qi is on the edge of overwhelming for me, but I find it’s strength combined with those bitter/tobacco/nutty Mengku flavors a nice contrast to a lot of my teas. The Qing Mei Shan is also powerful, but in a more gentler way, I felt. I’ve read favorable reviews of Bosch and Little Walk, but they’re out of my budget. :( I’ll be on the look for your reviews on those two.

Tasting is such a subjective experience, yet it’s funny how much we care about others’ reviews. I’m certainly guilty of trolling for Steepster notes!

jschergen

Yeah. The Bosch is a really nice cake.. I think YS does a great job in that $0.15/g-$0.30/g range. 400g cakes is a good amoutn of tea.

Been gravitating more towards teas with 5-7 years of age these days. Many less options, but I have increasing doubts how well these teas will age into something I like in the future.

jschergen

I’ll also add that I tend to let my young cakes sit around.. A further reason for this trend.

tanluwils

Agreed. I’ve been looking for decent mid-aged teas to collect, as well. Something easy to drink that won’t empty my wallet (wishful thinking, I know). Have you tried the EoT 2006 Wild Peacock or any of YS’s semi-aged Shuangjiang Mengku band teas?

jschergen

Yep. I filmed an ep with the Wild Peacock a few weeks back. It’s a good tea for the value. Soft, smooth, everything I’d like in a daily drinker. If you’re interested in it you should hop on it soon. I think there’s only a few left.

Shuangjiang Mengku. Haven’t tried the YS ones but I can vouch for the 2005 Mushucha available on Houde. Very good value if you like Northern teas. Only three left there though.

From YS, my favorite semi-aged for the price is probably the 02 Ancient Spirit.

tanluwils

Speaking of EoT, there’s currently a 20% Jan-wide sale on selected items. I still haven’t tried any of their teas, but I’ve heard so many good things about their teas from people with reliable taste-buds that I think I might just take a chance. Unfortunately, and rightfully so, the 2006 Wild Peacock isn’t included.

jschergen

Yep. Mainly good stuff there. I’m not too familiar with any of the stuff on sale.. But the Green Peacock and Wild Peacock are very solid teas.

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Dark dried leaves are largely intact and spindly. I placed 7 grams in a 100 ml gaiwan and allowed the leaves steeped after the rinse to sit for a few mins. Steeped leaves are highly fragrant—ripe grapes and star fruit. Initial steeps are very fruity and rose-y (like rose hips). That robust purple pu’er tea astringency is almost absent in the medley of sweet flavors. It remains a delicate tea with an almost decadent mouth feel and gentle, but very present, cha qi. While this one is much softer and approachable than the Dehong purple tea, I actually prefer the latter for its sharper notes.

Edit: Having tried this several times, I figured out why I prefer the Dehong purple over this one. I actually dislike that unique (kind of herbal) flavor present in all purple pu’er. This flavor seems to stand out more in the Wuliang due to the lack of sharp bitterness that is present in the Dehong. While tasty in its own right, and despite my positive review, I’m not a fan of this tea.

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I’ve had several sessions of this tea and I found it quite different from the 2013 version. This one has a more subdued energy that builds up through the steeps. It has typical Mang Fei taste profile of sugar cane, tobacco, bitter melon, and a hint of all spice. My favorite attribute of this tea is its varied sweet notes of raw cane sugar, caramel, and molasses. It has a pleasant mouth feel, persistent aftertaste, and consistent energy. I would recommend this tea to those looking for a less aggressive Mang Fei.

jschergen

I’d say that’s pretty accurate. The 2013 beat me over the head and tossed me out on the curb. For people that love strong, strong, strong tea. This one’s a bit more refined but still quite strong.

The Sanhezhai would also be an interesting comparison against these teas. I think Mangfei may be one of the three components.

tanluwils

Initially, I prefered this one to the 2013, but after 3 sessions of each, I’m leaning more towards the latter. I found later steeps after the sixth or so to yield more interesting layers of nutty and savory flavors. I’ve great reviews of San He Zhai, but have yet to try it! Which is your favorite out of Scott’s 2015 line?

jschergen

That’s interesting. The 2013 was so strong that I think I’ve only had it once. Not sure if I still have my sample somewhere… Sanhezhai can vary a bit session to session, but it’s good for the $$.

Favorite of 2015 for the price is the Huangshan Gushu. The Da Qing is also good and has slightly different characteristics, but I think I prefer the stable, steady thick body and aftertaste of the Huangshan. I will also say that I haven’t sampled everything, notably absent being Scott’s Yiwus.

tanluwils

I forgot to add the Huang Shan sample to my last YS purchase, but I’ve read favorable reviews. I like that the tea trees are only picked twice a year and that reviews have emphasized its kuwei. It’s highly likely I’ll give in to my gourmandizing tendencies and grab a cake instead of waiting for the sample.

I would love to try some of YS’s Yiwus. The Wa Long sample is $!4, but I’m thinking it would add to my pu’er edification.

jschergen

The Yiwus are good for sure just more expensive. I’ve sampled both the 2013 and 2015 Walongs. Probably the best or close to the best teas Scott has pressed in both years..

I think the Huang Shan is a very safe bet to do blind. It’s good, quality, well-balanced stuff. Just grab it before it goes up by 20% on Chinese New Year!

tanluwils

Which year of Wa Long would you recommend?

jschergen

Hmm.. I’d do 2015. The 2013 may or may not be going through a bit of awkwardness. Also..

Hmm.. I’d do 2015. The 2013 may or may not be going through a bit of awkwardness. Also..It’s probably just variability, but the taste after the first four or five infusions in my session of the 2013 got a bit more ordinary. Didn’t remember anything like that with the 2015.. Both are good though.

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This is a gentleman’s sheng. It has a rugged pungency and robust bitter, nutty, and tobacco-like flavors. Mid steeps are more herbal and bittersweet. It’s a very comfortable tea. I imagine myself sipping on this on a cold evening in front of a fireplace. It’s highly infuseable and has consistent energy that only fades at after the 13th or so steep. The leaves are quite large and thick. Very distinctive!

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Letting this one air out for a few weeks in between sessions has definitely allowed its unique attributes shine through. The brewed leaves have a wonderful caramelized brown sugar sweet aroma. Since then it has grown on me.

With 7 grams in a 100g gaiwan, it’s quite complex in its flavors, textures, and sensations. It has excellent body, mouth feel, and expansive huigan with a cooling and almost numbing sensation. Prominent flavors are minty, sweet tobacco, complex woody notes, bitter melon, and roasted brown sugar. Smoke is almost absent and completely disappears after initial steeps. Sweet flowery notes dominate the first two steeps. Steeps 4 to 10 or so are characterized by straight up bitterness with sweet and savory accents.

After that it coasts with for seemingly endless smooth, mellow, and savory sweet steeps. Impressive consistent energy that doesn’t cause drowsiness or upset the stomach. The tea soup is a clear and deep golden hue.

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Tea, cooking, hiking, plants, East Asian ceramics, fine art, Chinese and Central Asian history, environmental sustainability, traveling, foreign languages, meditation, health, animals, spirituality and philosophy.

I drink:
young sheng pu’er
green tea
roasted oolongs
aged sheng pu’er
heicha
shu pu’er
herbal teas (not sweetened)

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Personal brewing methods:

Use good mineral water – Filter DC’s poor-quality water, then boil it using maifan stones to reintroduce minerals。 Leaf to water ratios (depends on the tea)
- pu’er: 5-7 g for 100 ml
(I usually a gaiwan for very young sheng.)
- green tea: 2-4 g for 100 ml
- oolong: 5-7 g for 100 ml
- white tea: 2-4 g for 100 ml
- heicha: 5-6 g for 100 ml
(I occasionally boil fu cha a over stovetop for a very rich and comforting brew.)

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