pu-erh of the day. Sheng or Shou

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BulangBest said

JayinHK I may give that a try to see what kind of results I get. When you brew 6g/500ml what type of pot do you use? Is it porcelain or metal? Do you keep low heat under it or just add hot water when it gets low in the pot?

Sorry for all the questions but at this stage I am at the bottom of the learning curve.

AllanK said

I think for that style of brewing the type of pot is not important. Use what you have. I also find that ripe puerh comes out good with western steeps myself. Similar to the method above. As I recall I used 8g for a 500ml pot in a western steep of anywhere from 30 seconds to five minutes depending on your tastes. In this method you are not doing a lot of steeps though. The nice thing about gongfu is that I can do twelve steeps on average. Some teas will change a lot over that period, some not so much.

BulangBest said

Sorry everyone for coloring outside the lines in this post. I should have kept my responses inline with the original tasting note.

TeaLife.HK said

This is the pot I use for green and black tea: Northern Vietnamese porcelain.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BItfixtA2je/?taken-by=tealifehk

For shu I tend to use a 500ml Factory 1 Yixing pot.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BImSZGwgXjI/?taken-by=tealifehk

That was actually a blend of HK traditional storage 10-15 year old shu and sheng (7542 and 7572).

If you use more leaf, you get more infusions with shorter infusion time, but shu isn’t really something most people drink for complexity. Sheng works wonderfully brewed this way too, as do most teas. I believe in Yunnan, most local people drink maocha and pu erh in big pots this way.

The only tea I never brew this way is high fire oolong, but a lot of people in Hong Kong, Chaozhou and Fujian drink high fire oolongs in big pots every day, so that’s merely personal preference. We even get Coca-Cola bottled cold dahongpao at 7-11 and supermarkets here (and it’s surprisingly good DHP). They brew it in one long infusion before bottling.

I add hot water as the level in the pot goes down or if the tea gets too strong. If you used too much leaf, you can even dilute right in your cup. Here in HK, when you drink tea with a Chinese meal, there are two pots on the table: one for tea and one full of boiling water, which you add to the pot as needed (and the cup, if you let your tea get too strong).

Gongfu prep is fun and all, but kicking back with a big pot is a heck of a lot easier and sometimes gives you better results than gongfu, since you get a full extraction from the leaves rather than bit by bit.

I drank most of the way down in my porcelain pot and had my housekeeper top it up. It’s going to be very light tea to finish with as I had her fill it all the way up to the top, but that keeps me hydrated and I will get everything out of the leaves before I toss em.

EDIT: wasn’t light at all. Sweet and flavorful all the way down!

BulangBest said

Thanks for all of the information regarding tea types and brewing. The larger vessel method appeals to me as well. I generally drink tea while at my desk and this method would make it much easier to drink excellent tea while staying on task. I know there are times when it is wonderful to just sit and focus on brewing tea just for the pleasure of tea.

TeaLife.HK said

Glad to help! I only brewed gongfu style at home for years until I realized almost everyone in Vietnam was using big pots and getting excellent results with their green tea. Gongfu is still my primary method, but if you’re busy with other stuff, big pot style is what most of Asia’s loose tea drinkers do every day (aside from South Asia).

When I bought the porcelain pot, I was trying to buy a porcelain gongfu table and the lady at the store misunderstood me and poured me a cup of tea from a pot that must’ve held three quarts. It was beautifully painted and stored in a padded bamboo/rattan cosy to keep it warm. Not what I wanted but I accepted the cup graciously. :D

Many Chinese people just carry plastic bottles around with leaves and hot water in em. I’ve even seen an elementary/primary school kid drinking tea that way here in HK, which surprised me greatly since the kid was around 7 (I used to teach elementary here). Teaching Hong Kong school kids was interesting to say the least. I remember kids sharing a cup of stewed pig intestines in the classroom. I was a bit grossed out at the time, but now I eat tripe and intestine all the time!

Grandpa/big pot brewing is much more forgiving, too, since you can dilute as needed if you forget you have a pot of tea brewing or if you screw up and add too much leaf.

Yang-chu said

I agree with the sentiment that shou gangnam style is opa. Works great in a thermos, the presurized cap really gets into the leaves even better than a teapot, can ensure a better quality buzz. As one patient reported, I felt I was on a mild narcotic all day. All I could say was “Opa gangnam style.”

BulangBest said

Grandpa style it is then for tomorrow. I will choose a different tea and post the results. I have a 2007 7581 that should fit the bill.

Yang-chu said

7581 is the business. Anyone who takes issue with that is lookin’ for a fight. I did notice a guy in the back, however, expressing some doubts about storage. But do you really need to cow to such minions? It’s 7581 after all.

TeaLife.HK said

Yang-chu: what have you been drinking tonight? Lol

Yang-chu said

;-)

mrmopar said

@BulangBest We were all learners at one time and we still are learning.

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BulangBest said

OK I have a 500ml teapot in the cupboard. Since tomorrow is a non work day for me I think I will give JayinHK’s ratios a try. That may work better since I like drinking from a 250ml cup generally.

This lets me sit back read and sip my favorite Shou.

TeaLife.HK said

Yup, it’s a lot less work drinking from a big pot and you get a much fuller flavor profile. You may never want to gongfu shu again. :D

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AllanK said

Today I’m drinking a Dayi procured on EBay from seller vin_enjoy. The 2016 Taetea Jin Yu Ripe Tea Cake. This was a fairly nice Dayi ripe, if a young one. It had all the hallmarks of being a real Dayi, the taste was right, the wrapping was right , and the security markings were right under the black light. It was fairly tasty too. It had a lot of fermentation taste to it, unpleasant at first. This lasted maybe two steeps and then the fermentation taste was better. Overall the fermentation taste lasted about four or five steeps. There was little bitterness and a nice sweet note that developed, not sure how to characterize that sweet note. Overall this was good tea. It is beginning to look like this is a good seller of puerh tea but I have more of his to try before I make a real determination.

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Rui A. said

To cut this weekend’s long tea story short yesterday I sipped 2012 Chen Sheng Hao golden Ban Zhang, this morning was the turn to try a sheng Allan recommended, a yummy 2008 Chang Tai’s Beauty sheng, while this afternoon, after a long meal, my wife and I are sipping 1997 CNNP Big Red Mark sheng. My only wish, I hope all weekends would be like this.

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Wocket said

I drank Hummingbird by Bitterleaf. Then I decided to have some tea after.

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AllanK said

Today I drank the 2015 Yunnan Sourcing Bang Dong Village raw puerh tea. It was pretty good overall. It was initially sweet with a think tea liquid. A bitter note crept in for a few steeps. But this didn’t last. The note of honey was used as a description on the Steepster page and I more or less agree with this. It is an excellent tea but not as good as the 2014 Yunnan Sourcing Autumn Bing Dao tea. The price of the two is about the same.

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Cwyn said

Day 5 on the 2016 WMD Mansa. Up to a minute now with steep time, eighteen steeps. I think I’ll do two more tomorrow to hit 20 and then quit it.

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2008 100g mini-bing from Tea Habitat; I don’t remember the name, but I think Tea Habitat only ever sold one puer akin to this. I bought a 1000g sample mini-tong of this a few years ago; whether this makes me stupid, smart, or lucky is up to you.

This tea is soupy, smooth, sticks to the roof of the mouth, and I think has a bit of good qi. My stomach is letting me know that this one still needs a few years, but it’s drinkable enough in that sense. A bit of a minty aftertaste.

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2013 Mengsong Secret Garden from Bana Tea today. From an 8g sample baggie that probably should have been drunken a lot sooner.

First thing I notice when pouring the tea into a gaiwan (~120ml) is that this doesn’t look like much leaf. Guess I often use quite a bit more than this. I did my best to lengthen steeps appropriately. Anyways, the tea was good, with some nice roof of the mouth action, and lasting more steeps than I was interested in drinking. The price is scary though, and I can’t imagine paying for it. Ah well.

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2005 Silver Peacock Puer from Menghai Xian Xinghai Tea Industry.
Ripe, Smooth, Earthy and sweet aftertaste without any bitterness.
Smells give hints of Carmel and Smoke.
Steeped in a small yixing teapot.

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